Ben Swann

Yeah.

So why would you freeze it?

So there's a lot of the context around those emails.

It's just, it's beyond what I would call bizarre, right?

It's...

If you're putting it in context, you'd say they're not clearly talking about beef jerky.

Again, also beef jerky is the simplest food in the world to access.

If you really, really want it that badly, you can get it almost anywhere.

And yet he seems to have, well, there's also one about how he's on a all jerky diet and he only wants to eat jerky.

Jeez.

Yeah, so it's very strange stuff that surrounds that.

So again, if you put context to all this stuff, you'd say the way the emails are written, the way they're communicating, why do they end conversations about pizza with winking faces?

Like who does that ever, ever?

Right, so it's things like that that I think really stand out about those emails.

Yeah, which email stood out to you the most that just creeped you out?

Was it a specific email?

Well, not necessarily pizza-related, but when, again, Michael Tracy was talking about this, one of the positions he takes, he wants to be a contrarian, I think, on some levels.

And I think Michael's a good guy, and I appreciated him even having a conversation about it.

But one of the things he said was he said there is no evidence at all that Jeffrey Epstein had a...

interest in young children.