Ben Symes

Yeah.

And they're in the top 10 most experienced players for Ireland in this camp, which is another...

Keynote for how important the likes of Seamus Coleman is.

Robbie Brady, John Egan and Seamus Coleman were all in there and they were the only players above the age of 30, which is huge.

But I think, look, to go back to the original question, Zaz, yes, I think a lot more can be got out of him.

But I think, it's funny, I hate to always go back to this argument, but international football is so different.

The pace of the game, the structure of the game is so different.

You often have to take...

you're often kind of thinking of the defensive first mindset immediately from the off and it's don't concede, don't concede, don't concede.

So you're maybe not allowed the freedom to pick up.

Yes, you can still get times to pick up the pocket of space, but I think it's going to be firmly drilled in to Finneza's that, you know,

number one role is control the possession yeah both as in control yeah and also control how the game is being played in and out of possession so when that's out of possession for Ireland that involves Finn Azaz basically playing as a left midfielder and pushing their right back

not allowing their right back to create any space and find the pass inside, allowing them to maybe make the pass to his right winger and then needing Liam Scales or Ryan Manning or whoever's behind him to push up.

And I think that's going to be a lot of what Finneas has or whoever is on that left-hand side.

I think that's what their job is going to be primarily.

And I think, look, Hamer spoke to a couple of us after the game last night.

What was that about?

Um,

This is basically after all the media kind of stuff got done and I spoke to a couple of us journalists and reporters and basically just wanted to reflect on the campaign as a whole and the identity of the team and kind of just laid out exactly how Ireland have played and want to play going forward.

I'm kind of saying these are the six key principles of