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Ben Taub

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Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

The Danes also carried fresh blood packs in case of casualties and were operating under standing orders that were reiterated to them that they should shoot at any invading forces.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

One thing to be really clear of, though, is that they don't have any concrete evidence of a planned US attack.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

There was no direct intelligence that this was likely to happen.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

It was more contextual.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And in the aftermath of Venezuela, it seemed like this, as Trump's folks frame it, this extension of the Monroe Doctrine, which was really now looking at as a kind of like conquering strategy all over the Western Hemisphere, was something that would put them in the target sites.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And so as far as the Europeans were concerned, and this is as one senior European source who was involved with the planning put it to me, the idea was to raise the cost.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

As in explicitly, if the United States is going to invade Greenland, they're going to have to kill European troops to do so.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And probably the Americans would succeed.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

at taking over Greenland.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

They have the military capacity to do so.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

The Europeans didn't doubt that, but they would actually fight and they would force them to shoot them and they would force them to kill them.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And this was the gamble that doing so would sort of raise the cost politically as well for Trump and the White House in terms of planning for something like this.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

It would make it difficult to do the quick and dirty annexation, as a Danish military intelligence officer put it to me.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

It would make it something that would be potentially very, very complicated and unpalatable in terms of domestic politics, where obviously going to war with Europe is the kind of thing that could escalate to impeachment very quickly in a way that going to war with Iran did not.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And so that was the message they intended to send.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

He absolutely understood the message of force.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And his response was to announce that every European nation that had deployed troops to Greenland would face new tariffs.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

At first, 10%.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

And then he added that if by June 1st, the United States did not reach a deal for what he called the complete and total purchase of Greenland by that date, he said, then they would rise to 25%.

Fresh Air
An inside look at President Trump's campaign to acquire Greenland

Later, Mark Rutte, the Secretary General of NATO, spoke to Trump a few days later at Davos, and he diffused the situation and Trump rolled back these tariff threats and said that for now, military options were off the table.