Ben van Kerkwyk

And the cost of human life.

Which is compounded every year.

That's right.

And all the people they interact with, the butterfly effect of that.

It's really crazy when you think about it that one president and one administration changed the course of civilization because they wanted control and they wanted to stop the anti-war movement and the civil rights movement.

And that's the fact.

Yeah, it's...

Well, it's what happens when people – once people have laws and they enforce those laws and someone comes along and says those laws are unjust, it's very difficult to get back rights that you've already lost.

Very difficult.

Once they're lost, like – and this is like what's really obvious about the 1970s Schedule I Act.

Because it's like we're dealing with the same issue all these years later, but it's not the 1970s, right?

So we have all the access to the data now instantaneously.

You can pull it up on chat GPT.

Yeah.

You know, like right now, instantaneously.

So there's no excuse for it.

But yet it's still difficult to get these laws changed.

Insanely difficult.

It takes so much time.

Yeah, that's what it should be.