Ben Wickler
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And that was the voices in the forefront of that fight were people whose healthcare was gonna be ripped away by what Republicans were doing. It was electrifying.
And that was the voices in the forefront of that fight were people whose healthcare was gonna be ripped away by what Republicans were doing. It was electrifying.
And we organized across the country as it move on, we helped to organize 23,000 protests with grassroots groups, with people with disabilities in the front of that fight whose lives were on the line, who put their bodies on the line in that fight. And Democrats made absolutely clear that there were four people being able to get healthcare when they needed it, and Republicans were against.
And we organized across the country as it move on, we helped to organize 23,000 protests with grassroots groups, with people with disabilities in the front of that fight whose lives were on the line, who put their bodies on the line in that fight. And Democrats made absolutely clear that there were four people being able to get healthcare when they needed it, and Republicans were against.
Republicans started trying to copy our message. People could see who was fighting for them and who was trying to screw them over, and we won. And in 2006, same thing, Social Security privatization. Republicans had this big plan that they were going to move Social Security into the stock market right before the financial crisis. Great idea, Republicans.
Republicans started trying to copy our message. People could see who was fighting for them and who was trying to screw them over, and we won. And in 2006, same thing, Social Security privatization. Republicans had this big plan that they were going to move Social Security into the stock market right before the financial crisis. Great idea, Republicans.
And Democrats said absolutely not and went to bat. And the voices of people who were going to be directly affected were front and center of the race in the battle. And that was a huge part of how we won in 2006. Also, the fight against Republican corruption, which was endemic.
And Democrats said absolutely not and went to bat. And the voices of people who were going to be directly affected were front and center of the race in the battle. And that was a huge part of how we won in 2006. Also, the fight against Republican corruption, which was endemic.
And we know there will be fights like that at this moment, but there actually has to be a big battle for people to be able to see it, especially to reach outside of the bubble. Just having a bill that has a bunch of great provisions that you talk about, it doesn't do it because Republicans never publicly message that they're against good ideas that Democrats have.
And we know there will be fights like that at this moment, but there actually has to be a big battle for people to be able to see it, especially to reach outside of the bubble. Just having a bill that has a bunch of great provisions that you talk about, it doesn't do it because Republicans never publicly message that they're against good ideas that Democrats have.
They kill our good proposals in private, and then they duke it out on the cultural fights that they want to bring attention to in the most public way possible. And then, by the way, you know, They don't believe half the stuff that they're saying. They know it's all BS. But the attacks that Republicans do are centrally to try to provoke fights that bring attention to their issues.
They kill our good proposals in private, and then they duke it out on the cultural fights that they want to bring attention to in the most public way possible. And then, by the way, you know, They don't believe half the stuff that they're saying. They know it's all BS. But the attacks that Republicans do are centrally to try to provoke fights that bring attention to their issues.
And we need to fight on our issues to fight, for example, not just to protect Social Security but to expand Social Security and to – to tax a higher income so we can expand the support that everybody gets in ways that put Republicans on defense. If we can do that kind of fight, it takes building a war room. It takes, it takes communicating clearly.
And we need to fight on our issues to fight, for example, not just to protect Social Security but to expand Social Security and to – to tax a higher income so we can expand the support that everybody gets in ways that put Republicans on defense. If we can do that kind of fight, it takes building a war room. It takes, it takes communicating clearly.
I think using the language people use in their real life is really critical, but this is, this is work that we've been doing year over year in Wisconsin. It takes on the ground organizing. We have the biggest on the ground organizing team. It takes communicating across a ton of different platforms. And it means going on offense on fights that actually basically,
I think using the language people use in their real life is really critical, but this is, this is work that we've been doing year over year in Wisconsin. It takes on the ground organizing. We have the biggest on the ground organizing team. It takes communicating across a ton of different platforms. And it means going on offense on fights that actually basically,
people have an emotional, intense response to that they actually care about. And then they get involved in those fights as well. Because if we can message all we want, but if people aren't talking about it in their, you know, in Baron's chat in World of Warcraft, then we're probably not actually having the kind of fight that draws the country's attention and changes the conversation.
people have an emotional, intense response to that they actually care about. And then they get involved in those fights as well. Because if we can message all we want, but if people aren't talking about it in their, you know, in Baron's chat in World of Warcraft, then we're probably not actually having the kind of fight that draws the country's attention and changes the conversation.
So the biggest thing is to go to places where people are talking about other stuff and talk about other stuff as well as about politics. And that means – it doesn't mean video games. It means home makeovers. Gigantic audience. People think about that all the time who are lucky enough to have homes that they can make over. Cooking. Parenting.
So the biggest thing is to go to places where people are talking about other stuff and talk about other stuff as well as about politics. And that means – it doesn't mean video games. It means home makeovers. Gigantic audience. People think about that all the time who are lucky enough to have homes that they can make over. Cooking. Parenting.