Ben Wickler

And I also think that the work to build the kind of communications strategy to do the nonpolitical work, the building up progressive media ecosystem and training and deploying communicators on conservative media, there's a lot of work to do there as well. And you can see that in in what happened in the election.

And I also think that the work to build the kind of communications strategy to do the nonpolitical work, the building up progressive media ecosystem and training and deploying communicators on conservative media, there's a lot of work to do there as well. And you can see that in in what happened in the election.

And you can also see that in the way that if you talk to folks across the country, there's a ton of races where as a national party, we haven't leaned into the fight. And that's the thing I think we have the opportunity to change. I have great respect for Chair Harrison. And I think there's a...

And you can also see that in the way that if you talk to folks across the country, there's a ton of races where as a national party, we haven't leaned into the fight. And that's the thing I think we have the opportunity to change. I have great respect for Chair Harrison. And I think there's a...

There's a lot of battles that simply have not been a core priority for the Democratic National Committee that we're going to be living with the consequences of that for a long time to come. And this is no shade on the people on the ground or the people who worked in the building.

There's a lot of battles that simply have not been a core priority for the Democratic National Committee that we're going to be living with the consequences of that for a long time to come. And this is no shade on the people on the ground or the people who worked in the building.

This is about having a strategy to be able to fight and win at all the different levels of the ballot, recognizing they're interconnected.

This is about having a strategy to be able to fight and win at all the different levels of the ballot, recognizing they're interconnected.

And that the DNC is a part of an ecosystem with unions and the labor movement, with grassroots partners and allies, that we need to build a plan together to be able to fight and win in a way that's happened more on the governing side than has happened in the political and communication and organizing and campaign side.

And that the DNC is a part of an ecosystem with unions and the labor movement, with grassroots partners and allies, that we need to build a plan together to be able to fight and win in a way that's happened more on the governing side than has happened in the political and communication and organizing and campaign side.

So the core of that question is, do you think that the Democratic Party's agenda should be controlled by corporate PACs and lobbyists? And my answer to that is absolutely not. We should be fighting for working folks, and we should be fighting to win at every level of the ballot. I also know that if you look across the country,

So the core of that question is, do you think that the Democratic Party's agenda should be controlled by corporate PACs and lobbyists? And my answer to that is absolutely not. We should be fighting for working folks, and we should be fighting to win at every level of the ballot. I also know that if you look across the country,

the core thing that we need to do is fight in a way that brings friends to our side, and that will lead to various companies, I'm sure, investing in supporting Republicans, as they're doing right now in a big way, and that there are states, there are different fights, there are places where the right has gone so far that the only way that

the core thing that we need to do is fight in a way that brings friends to our side, and that will lead to various companies, I'm sure, investing in supporting Republicans, as they're doing right now in a big way, and that there are states, there are different fights, there are places where the right has gone so far that the only way that

The business community winds up siding with moderates and Democrats against far-right Republicans. So I actually think that the way corporate money affects our politics is less affected by the DNC's ban or not ban. It's affected by the kinds of fights that we lead and the way that we fight back against people trying to rig the country.

The business community winds up siding with moderates and Democrats against far-right Republicans. So I actually think that the way corporate money affects our politics is less affected by the DNC's ban or not ban. It's affected by the kinds of fights that we lead and the way that we fight back against people trying to rig the country.

Being in Wisconsin where Republicans rigged our campaign finance law to – officially to shut out corporate money but it's actually to shut out union money and then raise money from billionaire owners of giant corporations to fund their campaigns through dark money and on the independent side.

Being in Wisconsin where Republicans rigged our campaign finance law to – officially to shut out corporate money but it's actually to shut out union money and then raise money from billionaire owners of giant corporations to fund their campaigns through dark money and on the independent side.

I think that a DNC ban is actually not an effective tool to winning the kinds of fights we need to win to be able to change our campaign finance laws nationally. Yeah.

I think that a DNC ban is actually not an effective tool to winning the kinds of fights we need to win to be able to change our campaign finance laws nationally. Yeah.