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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

These are types of stocks that they're more volatile and they tend to lag behind the broader market.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

If you can choose to avoid them, you might want to.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

A really interesting thing is that Dimensional's paper ends in 2018, but their finding is pretty easy to update and replicate because there are actually two ETFs that invest in IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So they invest in IPOs when they list and they hold them for three years and then sell them.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

There's the Renaissance IPO ETF, which exclusively invests in large US IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And as I said, they hold them for three years and then sell them.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It has underperformed VTI, which just tracks the total US market by more than six percentage points annualized since inception in October, 2013.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

As expected, if you run a quick regression, which I did in Portfolio Visualizer, it behaves like a portfolio of small stocks with high prices, low profitability, and aggressive asset growth.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And then there's another one that has international stocks.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

This one has been listed since 2014.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Its ticker is IPOS, which I think is quite a comical or unfortunate ticker choice.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's also underperformed by a wide margin relative to just an index.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

You can also see similar underperformance if you look at Jay Ritter's data.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

His data from 1980 to 2023 shows similar underperformance.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So that's just a broad picture of IPO data.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

There are different ways you can slice it.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And I'll talk about that from a couple of different perspectives in a minute.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

But first I want to talk about low float IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Before I do that, do you guys have any comments?

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Not bad.