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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Like that's wild.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's crazy.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Now, if you're a company listing on the stock market, or if you're an investment bank facilitating an IPO, getting the stock included in a major index or multiple indices, even better,

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

can mean huge investment dollars flowing into the shares of the company on public markets because index funds are forced to buy.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Now, what does that do?

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Well, it increases the price probably, and we know that it does from some of the data we'll talk about.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It gives sellers liquidity, increases the share price.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So if you're the company or involved with taking the company public, index inclusion is really desirable for shareholders, for the company.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

The group that it's not so great for is the index fund investors.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

who are potentially left holding the bag.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Now, it tends to be a small portion of the index that we're talking about here.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So it's a tiny little bag, but it's still a bag that they're left holding.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So why do we see this happening?

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

This doesn't have to be an irrational, inefficient markets thing.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Lubos Pastor has a paper that I'm pretty sure we talked to him about when he was on our podcast.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

There are rational reasons for there to be waves of IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Companies go public basically when they think they can sell their stock at a high price, which doesn't mean anything inefficient or irrational is happening.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's just for whatever reason, their company has a high stock price at that time.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

But that means for the public market investors, when these companies go public, they have by their own evaluation, a high stock price.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

public market investors buying the stock in a secondary market get the opportunity to invest in these companies when they're, if we wanted to use the word overvalued, here's where we would use it.