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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Most major indices, as I just mentioned with Crisp, have a minimum float requirement and they weight stocks by their public float.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

NASDAQ 100 is an exception to that.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

We can talk more about that in a minute, but a company could go public while only making a small portion of their overall market capitalization freely available on public exchanges, which is often the case.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

companies will tend to have 20 to 30% or something like that as a public float.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Some of these companies, I mentioned the FT article, it's speculated that these companies are going to go public with low public floats, like as low as 5%.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

As I mentioned before, at a $1.75 trillion valuation for SpaceX, total market valuation at a 5% float, their weight in the eyes of indices is 88 billion, not 1.75 trillion.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Pretty big difference.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's a huge difference.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

100%.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

So when we're talking about, oh, these companies are so much bigger, this makes this issue magnified.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Well, yes, if they floated 100% of their equity, yeah, it's a huge difference.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

If they float 5%, it's a non-issue.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

If they float 10% and they're able to enter the index at all, okay, now they're a whatever, one of the biggest companies that's ever existed.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Yes, but, and there is a but, so NASDAQ did change its rules, and I'm going to talk about that in a second.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

A lot of the headlines are about the index providers considering changing the rules to accommodate these big IPOs.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

But you're right, Ben.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

As of right now,

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

this is actually not that much of an issue.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Unless you're investing in the NASDAQ 100, which you probably shouldn't be doing anyway.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

That's a whole other topic for another day.