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Benjamin Felix

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The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

On the idea of changing index methodologies, that's a huge one.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

S&P in 2004, they announced that in 2005, I believe that they would start free floating.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Prior to that, they were not using free float weights.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I found an article about this from 2004.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's all focused on

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

The sense of most index users is that float adjustment reduces the costs of running index funds and ETFs because stocks with less float and therefore less liquidity have lower weights in the index.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Index users also feel that basing the index on available shares instead of total shares means that the index is a better reflection of the market and through the market of the economy.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's actually super interesting.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I wish I'd looked at this earlier.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

In an October 2003 concept paper prior to announcing the decision to move to float adjustment, S&P highlighted reasons against the switch.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

We looked at the academic and theoretical basis for indexing, but found no arguments for or against float adjustment, said Blitzer.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

Side note, David Blitzer was an early guest on this podcast.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

when he was still with S&P before he retired.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

It's an episode worth checking out if you want to hear more about some of the inside baseball of how indexes are created and managed.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

This is more quote from David Blitzer, increased interest in investing outside the US seems to have raised the awareness of float issues in foreign markets where cross holdings and strategic holdings by governments or founding families are more common than the US.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

That's also interesting.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

on the topic of indexes make changes to reflect changes in the market.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

And I think as this article also points out, changes in how indexes are being used by investors.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

I think we heard about that when I was in New York and talked to Jim Rowley and Tim Edwards.

The Rational Reminder Podcast
Episode 406: When Massive Private Companies Go Public

They talked a little bit about this, just about how index providers and index fund providers work together to figure out what the index should look like.