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Benjamin Saltzman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
137 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

We do it when we feel disgusted.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

We do it when we feel shame.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

We do it when we grieve.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

We do it when we think or when we feel embarrassed or when we're confronting something sort of awful or even in some cases when we're playing.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

And the more that I've realized the range and thought about the range of meaning in this gesture, the more I've come to think of it as kind of a โ€“

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

something important actually, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

To do away with it entirely, to avoid turning away entirely is not only impossible, but it leaves out an opportunity to process, to reflect, to think, to grieve, to feel, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

And yeah, I don't want to get rid of those things because I think they're important to how we relate to the world.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

No, that's the dilemma.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

And there are two things I guess I'd say about that.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

One is you've probably noticed that if you encounter someone or something that provokes you to turn away, you may โ€“

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

Notice that you still kind of retain the memory of not only the thing you turned away from, but also the act of turning away.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

So it stays with you in some ways more powerfully than if you sort of go about kind of constantly paying attention, constantly attending to and looking at everything one after the one after the other.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

So it stays with you, if that makes sense.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

And it causes you in some ways to become a question to yourself, to question why you turned away.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

And I think that's really valuable.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

I don't know.

The Last Show with David Cooper
The Profound Gesture of Turning Away

I think they're related.