Benjamin Zeller
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The FBI investigator in the 1970s determined the group wasn't breaking any laws and said, no, sorry, we can't do anything. Also die lokalen Behörden, obwohl ich keine Anforderungen von jedem Gruppe habe, aber von dem, was wir wissen, weil sie leidenschaftlich waren, wurden sie im Grunde genommen verabschiedet. Es ist legal, kommunal zu leben. Es ist legal, deine Familie zu verlassen.
The FBI investigator in the 1970s determined the group wasn't breaking any laws and said, no, sorry, we can't do anything. Also die lokalen Behörden, obwohl ich keine Anforderungen von jedem Gruppe habe, aber von dem, was wir wissen, weil sie leidenschaftlich waren, wurden sie im Grunde genommen verabschiedet. Es ist legal, kommunal zu leben. Es ist legal, deine Familie zu verlassen.
The FBI investigator in the 1970s determined the group wasn't breaking any laws and said, no, sorry, we can't do anything. Also die lokalen Behörden, obwohl ich keine Anforderungen von jedem Gruppe habe, aber von dem, was wir wissen, weil sie leidenschaftlich waren, wurden sie im Grunde genommen verabschiedet. Es ist legal, kommunal zu leben. Es ist legal, deine Familie zu verlassen.
Wenn du ein Adult bist, natĂŒrlich. Es ist legal, nicht mit Leuten zu sozialisieren und zurĂŒck in dein Zuhause zu wollen. Also waren sie im Grunde auf jedem Radar. Now, I'm not an attorney, to be clear, so I'm not giving legal advice here. But as far as I can tell, even when they came to embrace suicide as an option, they weren't doing anything illegal.
Wenn du ein Adult bist, natĂŒrlich. Es ist legal, nicht mit Leuten zu sozialisieren und zurĂŒck in dein Zuhause zu wollen. Also waren sie im Grunde auf jedem Radar. Now, I'm not an attorney, to be clear, so I'm not giving legal advice here. But as far as I can tell, even when they came to embrace suicide as an option, they weren't doing anything illegal.
Wenn du ein Adult bist, natĂŒrlich. Es ist legal, nicht mit Leuten zu sozialisieren und zurĂŒck in dein Zuhause zu wollen. Also waren sie im Grunde auf jedem Radar. Now, I'm not an attorney, to be clear, so I'm not giving legal advice here. But as far as I can tell, even when they came to embrace suicide as an option, they weren't doing anything illegal.
But certainly up to that point, they had avoided any sort of entanglements with law enforcement such that no one in California was even aware of what they were up to.
But certainly up to that point, they had avoided any sort of entanglements with law enforcement such that no one in California was even aware of what they were up to.
But certainly up to that point, they had avoided any sort of entanglements with law enforcement such that no one in California was even aware of what they were up to.
One of the things I find interesting at the very end is that actually they timed their exits, is what they call the suicides. They timed their exits. They made these sort of FedEx packages to send to ex-members that had disks for updating the website and some videos and some instructions. This is actually how the bodies were found. So because one of the ex-members was sent a package.
One of the things I find interesting at the very end is that actually they timed their exits, is what they call the suicides. They timed their exits. They made these sort of FedEx packages to send to ex-members that had disks for updating the website and some videos and some instructions. This is actually how the bodies were found. So because one of the ex-members was sent a package.
One of the things I find interesting at the very end is that actually they timed their exits, is what they call the suicides. They timed their exits. They made these sort of FedEx packages to send to ex-members that had disks for updating the website and some videos and some instructions. This is actually how the bodies were found. So because one of the ex-members was sent a package.
for the packages to arrive after the suicides were completed. And an ex-member has told me, and I accept this argument, that it was done so that there could be no culpability. Again, I'm not sure what the law would be if you receive a FedEx package which says someone's going to commit suicide. I would think the ethical thing to do is you'd call the police or something.
for the packages to arrive after the suicides were completed. And an ex-member has told me, and I accept this argument, that it was done so that there could be no culpability. Again, I'm not sure what the law would be if you receive a FedEx package which says someone's going to commit suicide. I would think the ethical thing to do is you'd call the police or something.
for the packages to arrive after the suicides were completed. And an ex-member has told me, and I accept this argument, that it was done so that there could be no culpability. Again, I'm not sure what the law would be if you receive a FedEx package which says someone's going to commit suicide. I would think the ethical thing to do is you'd call the police or something.
But they timed it so there was no way for the ex-members to stop it. By the time those packages arrived, the deed was done. They are very methodical, if nothing else. Yeah, they very much were so. And that's what happens. So one of the ex-members receives a package and goes down and finds the body and calls 911. And you can find the audio tape online of the 911 calls.
But they timed it so there was no way for the ex-members to stop it. By the time those packages arrived, the deed was done. They are very methodical, if nothing else. Yeah, they very much were so. And that's what happens. So one of the ex-members receives a package and goes down and finds the body and calls 911. And you can find the audio tape online of the 911 calls.
But they timed it so there was no way for the ex-members to stop it. By the time those packages arrived, the deed was done. They are very methodical, if nothing else. Yeah, they very much were so. And that's what happens. So one of the ex-members receives a package and goes down and finds the body and calls 911. And you can find the audio tape online of the 911 calls.
It's all there on YouTube somewhere.
It's all there on YouTube somewhere.