Benji Backer

Humans interact with the environment every single day. Us being on this call takes up energy and takes up resources that takes from the environment. We have a role in protecting it, but that means we need to be involved in it. And that's why conservation is so much better than preservation.

Well, I think what I'm concerned about is that we allow the radical extremes to continue dominating this conversation, because right now it's an all-or-nothing approach. We either need the Green New Deal or we're not going to do anything. We're just going to overdevelop the country and not care about the environment whatsoever. I'm over-dramatizing that.

Well, I think what I'm concerned about is that we allow the radical extremes to continue dominating this conversation, because right now it's an all-or-nothing approach. We either need the Green New Deal or we're not going to do anything. We're just going to overdevelop the country and not care about the environment whatsoever. I'm over-dramatizing that.

But that's kind of how the conversation is going. We're trying to drive a conversation that's right there, balanced in the middle. Like you said, it might not be the most sexy these days in the news cycle that we're in. But We've put together an amazing group of people.

But that's kind of how the conversation is going. We're trying to drive a conversation that's right there, balanced in the middle. Like you said, it might not be the most sexy these days in the news cycle that we're in. But We've put together an amazing group of people.

We have the former head of the Sierra Club and former Trump cabinet members who are working closely with this administration on our board together. Because there's a lot of shared outcomes that we have at Nature is Nonpartisan that we believe Americans want on behalf of our environment in a sensible way.

We have the former head of the Sierra Club and former Trump cabinet members who are working closely with this administration on our board together. Because there's a lot of shared outcomes that we have at Nature is Nonpartisan that we believe Americans want on behalf of our environment in a sensible way.

And the AOCs of the world and the people who only critique the AOCs and don't provide their own agendas are the problem. And I would say the congressman probably understands that better than anyone because she's in Congress dealing with those sorts of realities every single day. There's no incentive to solve problems right now.

And the AOCs of the world and the people who only critique the AOCs and don't provide their own agendas are the problem. And I would say the congressman probably understands that better than anyone because she's in Congress dealing with those sorts of realities every single day. There's no incentive to solve problems right now.

The incentive is to just oppose the other side's ideas and create fear-mongering. I saw the National Park Conservation Association say that Donald Trump was about to destroy, and it was the beginning of the end of the national park system in the United States because he's the president. When in reality, he signed the biggest national park bill

The incentive is to just oppose the other side's ideas and create fear-mongering. I saw the National Park Conservation Association say that Donald Trump was about to destroy, and it was the beginning of the end of the national park system in the United States because he's the president. When in reality, he signed the biggest national park bill

bill into law when he was president last time he doesn't want to destroy the national parks but they're dictating that message and americans are following so we have to take this issue out of that back and forth otherwise we're not going to get the results that we need and we're trying to pierce our way through that i'm assuming you guys are both working with the interior department and i would call doug bergham a friend i used to go to north dakota when he was governor and give presentations on various things on his behalf his wife's

bill into law when he was president last time he doesn't want to destroy the national parks but they're dictating that message and americans are following so we have to take this issue out of that back and forth otherwise we're not going to get the results that we need and we're trying to pierce our way through that i'm assuming you guys are both working with the interior department and i would call doug bergham a friend i used to go to north dakota when he was governor and give presentations on various things on his behalf his wife's

Completely agree, and there's nobody that understands the role of balance and conservation than Doug Burgum. I mean, he's a passionate outdoorsman. He understands the importance of energy. He doesn't pick winners and losers when it comes to energy, and he cares deeply about protecting nature. our national wonders. Now, what he's done, the left is not going to give him credit for this.

Completely agree, and there's nobody that understands the role of balance and conservation than Doug Burgum. I mean, he's a passionate outdoorsman. He understands the importance of energy. He doesn't pick winners and losers when it comes to energy, and he cares deeply about protecting nature. our national wonders. Now, what he's done, the left is not going to give him credit for this.

He is the major funder of the Teddy Roosevelt Presidential Library at Teddy Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota. He's one of the biggest advocates for the environment I have ever seen. And he's probably the closest to nature that we've had for any DOI secretary in recent history, at least in my lifetime. He's the best advocate that we can have for the environment.

He is the major funder of the Teddy Roosevelt Presidential Library at Teddy Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota. He's one of the biggest advocates for the environment I have ever seen. And he's probably the closest to nature that we've had for any DOI secretary in recent history, at least in my lifetime. He's the best advocate that we can have for the environment.

And that's why we're working with him on a plan called Making America Beautiful Again, which hopefully will take shape soon.

And that's why we're working with him on a plan called Making America Beautiful Again, which hopefully will take shape soon.

Well, one of the one of those important things that RFK focuses on is the importance of sustainable, regenerative agriculture and just healthy food systems. And the United States creates and produces food better than anywhere else in the world. And that's not just a talking point. It's the it's the truth.