Benji Naesen

I don't know.

Yeah, but I... On paper, how much better is Paul's success and even at El Toro than at least Volkalan on the climbs?

And you keep saying only...

i yeah and off season you said only would win the tour de france yeah man and i haven't seen any of that this year we can't yeah we can't pretend like what he's done in spring so far as his real like potential level he's not 35 years old he was fourth in the tour last year on picnic for me only as a top seven rider at this race in terms of gc at the end

If we talk about a minute plus, then I agree.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

We know what Onli's peak level is.

I don't see Onli getting 10% better from his peak level of cold low lows.

Del Toro, we don't know what his peak career climbing level will be in two years.

Against evil Benji.

I was getting roasted in December, by the way, for saying that he was not looking likely to win the Tour de France.

Paul Seixas was okay with Bizzio going up the road.

I don't think we have.

I feel like the bonies versus no bonies conversation was much bigger before we started the podcast in cycling.

Like the 2018 era, that was an active discussion in the sport of cycling.

Yeah, I got so used to bonies existing that I haven't thought about what the world would look like if no bonies existed.

Yeah.

How much bonus should we give on a flat sprint stage to make sure sprinters can become a danger for GC?

Yeah.

Only for the winner.