Bernard O'Shea

But look, it's like Garda there.

It is going to stay crowded.

However, however, we went early this year and when we got to where we were going in Italy, there was Irish families everywhere.

Right, yes.

So it is, so people aren't going.

My sister told me that last year they went to Italy and one of her kids literally started crying because it was 39 degrees outside.

39 I just started crying saying I can't take it I just can't take it and now they didn't come home early because we're going we're sticking this out but they said it was yeah it just made the it made the it was 13 and a half up the road from you in Shannon there on Tuesday

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

When I get closer to those points, everything gets harder.

But isn't Kilkenny... Actually, there's a station in Durrow as well.

So where I grew up...

Now, there's a whole big thing about where exactly is the very centre of Ireland.

If you ever go on the RT archives, there's a brilliant kind of piss-take thing done by Hall's Pictorial in the 70s.

But prior to that, there is... Do you remember, he was a reporter from Cork.

He's passed away since, I can't think of his name now.

It's not Bill, it's somebody else.

And they were doing this whole thing about where is... Yes, where is the exact centre of Ireland?

Yeah.

Cormac, maybe?

Queen?