Bernarda Villalona

Yeah, but what's material? Because this is the thing, having been a former prosecutor, 16 years, and a defense attorney now and tried over 100 cases, You're never going to get 100% accuracy when you're dealing with multiple witnesses testifying about the most important thing. But is that a problem for the jury, though? No, what's the most important thing is focus on the material fact.

Yeah, but what's material? Because this is the thing, having been a former prosecutor, 16 years, and a defense attorney now and tried over 100 cases, You're never going to get 100% accuracy when you're dealing with multiple witnesses testifying about the most important thing. But is that a problem for the jury, though? No, what's the most important thing is focus on the material fact.

Not minor inconsistencies, the material fact. The material fact, went to the house to try to shoot up Kid Cudi.

Not minor inconsistencies, the material fact. The material fact, went to the house to try to shoot up Kid Cudi.

Well, the prosecutors, they're doing the best that they can in terms of getting the emotion out there. They want the jury to feel what Cassie felt living in her shoes each of those days that she was part of a freak-off, that she was on drugs, that she was drinking alcohol, that she was beating viciously by Puff Daddy Combs.

Well, the prosecutors, they're doing the best that they can in terms of getting the emotion out there. They want the jury to feel what Cassie felt living in her shoes each of those days that she was part of a freak-off, that she was on drugs, that she was drinking alcohol, that she was beating viciously by Puff Daddy Combs.

So that's what they want because they want that emotional attachment for that jury when they go into deliberations to fight for her and fight for the prosecution to return a guilty verdict.

So that's what they want because they want that emotional attachment for that jury when they go into deliberations to fight for her and fight for the prosecution to return a guilty verdict.

But they also want the jury to know that, look, she may have been in this relationship for years, but it's because she was under the manipulation and the control of Sean Combs that she remained in that relationship, not knowing any better that she was an actual victim and that she should have walked away.

But they also want the jury to know that, look, she may have been in this relationship for years, but it's because she was under the manipulation and the control of Sean Combs that she remained in that relationship, not knowing any better that she was an actual victim and that she should have walked away.

Well, there not just going to make it clear with Cassie because they are going to call other witnesses. And more importantly, one of the most important witnesses is expert that's going to testify about women that have been abused before and why they will decide to stay in a relationship even though they're being abused by their abuser. So try to explain this type of syndrome.

Well, there not just going to make it clear with Cassie because they are going to call other witnesses. And more importantly, one of the most important witnesses is expert that's going to testify about women that have been abused before and why they will decide to stay in a relationship even though they're being abused by their abuser. So try to explain this type of syndrome.

To me, it's like battered wife syndrome, right? a sexual assault victim, that it takes a while for a person to be strong enough, one, to realize that they were a victim, two, that they're ready to walk away, and three, that they have the power and they'll be okay if they walk away. So you're still going to hear from that witness.

To me, it's like battered wife syndrome, right? a sexual assault victim, that it takes a while for a person to be strong enough, one, to realize that they were a victim, two, that they're ready to walk away, and three, that they have the power and they'll be okay if they walk away. So you're still going to hear from that witness.

But I think more importantly is that when we're talking about things that you and I would normally think, I wouldn't want to do that. I wouldn't agree to that. When we're talking about having sex while she's on her menstrual cycle, or having sex while she has a sexual UTI, or having sex while someone's urinating on her. Like, it sparks the conscience, shocks the conscience.

But I think more importantly is that when we're talking about things that you and I would normally think, I wouldn't want to do that. I wouldn't agree to that. When we're talking about having sex while she's on her menstrual cycle, or having sex while she has a sexual UTI, or having sex while someone's urinating on her. Like, it sparks the conscience, shocks the conscience.

So that's one of the main arguments that the prosecution is going to drive through and drive home to the jury at the end of this case to be like, no one in their right mind will agree to this type of behavior.

So that's one of the main arguments that the prosecution is going to drive through and drive home to the jury at the end of this case to be like, no one in their right mind will agree to this type of behavior.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, the prosecution is not there yet. I think they've made an excellent case for domestic violence. But baby, we are here on federal charges. So you're going to have to prove the racketeering conspiracy. You're going to have to prove the sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion. You're going to have to prove the transportation to engage in prostitution.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, the prosecution is not there yet. I think they've made an excellent case for domestic violence. But baby, we are here on federal charges. So you're going to have to prove the racketeering conspiracy. You're going to have to prove the sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion. You're going to have to prove the transportation to engage in prostitution.