Bernie Sanders

That is, that is, yeah, I'm not going to argue with that point. And that's why I'm proudly an independent. What we're trying to do now is, And I will just reinforce the point both of you made. The hatred that we felt in 2016, 2020 from the Democratic establishment. I'll give you an example.

That is, that is, yeah, I'm not going to argue with that point. And that's why I'm proudly an independent. What we're trying to do now is, And I will just reinforce the point both of you made. The hatred that we felt in 2016, 2020 from the Democratic establishment. I'll give you an example.

We would do rallies and we have thousands of people, often young people, people of color coming out, working class people coming out. They were great, full of energy. And then we'd go to Democratic Party events. There'd be a few hundred people, mostly older, whiter, wealthier.

We would do rallies and we have thousands of people, often young people, people of color coming out, working class people coming out. They were great, full of energy. And then we'd go to Democratic Party events. There'd be a few hundred people, mostly older, whiter, wealthier.

We would do rallies and we have thousands of people, often young people, people of color coming out, working class people coming out. They were great, full of energy. And then we'd go to Democratic Party events. There'd be a few hundred people, mostly older, whiter, wealthier.

and you saw the clash and they the establishment did not want to open the door they hated the idea but all these people whose hands were a little bit dirty who didn't have phds or weren't wealthy imagine walking in it's my party man you ain't getting in yes we will fight you in the most ruthless ways that we can and that that's the struggle are they going to open the door

and you saw the clash and they the establishment did not want to open the door they hated the idea but all these people whose hands were a little bit dirty who didn't have phds or weren't wealthy imagine walking in it's my party man you ain't getting in yes we will fight you in the most ruthless ways that we can and that that's the struggle are they going to open the door

and you saw the clash and they the establishment did not want to open the door they hated the idea but all these people whose hands were a little bit dirty who didn't have phds or weren't wealthy imagine walking in it's my party man you ain't getting in yes we will fight you in the most ruthless ways that we can and that that's the struggle are they going to open the door

Or are they prepared to lose elections literally and maintain the status quo, go down with the Titanic? Do you think you're forcing the door open? Because it seems like that's what's happening right now. Exactly what we are trying to do right now. In the last month, we have enlisted some, I think, the latest 7,000 people who are prepared to run for office from school board to Congress.

Or are they prepared to lose elections literally and maintain the status quo, go down with the Titanic? Do you think you're forcing the door open? Because it seems like that's what's happening right now. Exactly what we are trying to do right now. In the last month, we have enlisted some, I think, the latest 7,000 people who are prepared to run for office from school board to Congress.

Or are they prepared to lose elections literally and maintain the status quo, go down with the Titanic? Do you think you're forcing the door open? Because it seems like that's what's happening right now. Exactly what we are trying to do right now. In the last month, we have enlisted some, I think, the latest 7,000 people who are prepared to run for office from school board to Congress.

You know, not all of them will run, but they've shown interest. There are training programs that we're undertaking with other groups right now. And by the way, a good percentage of them don't want to run as Democrats. They want to run as independents. Mm-hmm.

You know, not all of them will run, but they've shown interest. There are training programs that we're undertaking with other groups right now. And by the way, a good percentage of them don't want to run as Democrats. They want to run as independents. Mm-hmm.

You know, not all of them will run, but they've shown interest. There are training programs that we're undertaking with other groups right now. And by the way, a good percentage of them don't want to run as Democrats. They want to run as independents. Mm-hmm.

They realize they can't ignore it. Orphan lip service. Yes, they will. They will take on the ideas. But these guys... They want to protect what they have. So your question is a, you would say, look, okay. And by the way, Joe Biden, to his credit, I know everyone beats up on Biden. But what Biden did, unlike Hillary Clinton did, is he and his people saw that we had a movement.

They realize they can't ignore it. Orphan lip service. Yes, they will. They will take on the ideas. But these guys... They want to protect what they have. So your question is a, you would say, look, okay. And by the way, Joe Biden, to his credit, I know everyone beats up on Biden. But what Biden did, unlike Hillary Clinton did, is he and his people saw that we had a movement.

They realize they can't ignore it. Orphan lip service. Yes, they will. They will take on the ideas. But these guys... They want to protect what they have. So your question is a, you would say, look, okay. And by the way, Joe Biden, to his credit, I know everyone beats up on Biden. But what Biden did, unlike Hillary Clinton did, is he and his people saw that we had a movement.

And what he did is was prepared to put together task forces. We sat down with their people. And we brought people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and some of the strongest. We sit down with with, you know, establish and come up with a program. A lot of what went into the American Rescue Plan, which got us out of the covid pandemic economically pretty well and some other stuff.

And what he did is was prepared to put together task forces. We sat down with their people. And we brought people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and some of the strongest. We sit down with with, you know, establish and come up with a program. A lot of what went into the American Rescue Plan, which got us out of the covid pandemic economically pretty well and some other stuff.

And what he did is was prepared to put together task forces. We sat down with their people. And we brought people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and some of the strongest. We sit down with with, you know, establish and come up with a program. A lot of what went into the American Rescue Plan, which got us out of the covid pandemic economically pretty well and some other stuff.