Bert Hubert

And there are, of course, people that are still, as I call it, rocking it with Ork. because you get stuck with, yeah, this worked for me in 1997 and it will work for me in 2029 as well. Right. You have to strike this balance to say, I enjoy the new and shiny, but not too much. And you should also let go at some point of Perl. Or org or whatever.

And there are, of course, people that are still, as I call it, rocking it with Ork. because you get stuck with, yeah, this worked for me in 1997 and it will work for me in 2029 as well. Right. You have to strike this balance to say, I enjoy the new and shiny, but not too much. And you should also let go at some point of Perl. Or org or whatever.

Yeah. It's high time. It's high time. It's high time. Yeah. And I talked, for myself, I also sort of, I'm a bit ambivalent about this because on one hand, I love the new things and I think everyone should be. So I do a lot of JavaScript, for example, but I've also been doing C++ since like 30 years.

Yeah. It's high time. It's high time. It's high time. Yeah. And I talked, for myself, I also sort of, I'm a bit ambivalent about this because on one hand, I love the new things and I think everyone should be. So I do a lot of JavaScript, for example, but I've also been doing C++ since like 30 years.

And people are, you could on the one hand say that C++ is starting to get old and maybe you should move on to something new. But there I decide, no, look, I'm like really good with C++ and I'm getting this stuff done. So, and I know there are issues with it, but hey, it works for me. But on the other hand, I have no problems with doing all kinds of newfangled JavaScript things.

And people are, you could on the one hand say that C++ is starting to get old and maybe you should move on to something new. But there I decide, no, look, I'm like really good with C++ and I'm getting this stuff done. So, and I know there are issues with it, but hey, it works for me. But on the other hand, I have no problems with doing all kinds of newfangled JavaScript things.

And that was sort of the upshot of my talk where I said, look, Enjoy the new Shiny and do study it, do look into it, but don't just shift whole frameworks every few years because they are just, yeah, the bee's knees right now. But also do not get attached to your extremely old frameworks. And I think that is actually, that's why I wrote this post and did the presentation.

And that was sort of the upshot of my talk where I said, look, Enjoy the new Shiny and do study it, do look into it, but don't just shift whole frameworks every few years because they are just, yeah, the bee's knees right now. But also do not get attached to your extremely old frameworks. And I think that is actually, that's why I wrote this post and did the presentation.

I think this is one of the most, biggest determinants of your technical career. If you would take a look at the technical development over like 20 or 30 years, how you look at new things really determines if you're going to be in technology for the long haul and continue to be relevant and effective, or if you have to bow out and become some kind of manager because you're no longer with it.

I think this is one of the most, biggest determinants of your technical career. If you would take a look at the technical development over like 20 or 30 years, how you look at new things really determines if you're going to be in technology for the long haul and continue to be relevant and effective, or if you have to bow out and become some kind of manager because you're no longer with it.

And managing that is, I think, a very important part of a programmer's career also.

And managing that is, I think, a very important part of a programmer's career also.

No. And, but there are, it turns out there are many employers that actually also do not believe in change. Sure. So you, you can end up in some kind of insurance place or a government tax agency and work with 25 year old technology. Right.

No. And, but there are, it turns out there are many employers that actually also do not believe in change. Sure. So you, you can end up in some kind of insurance place or a government tax agency and work with 25 year old technology. Right.

Yeah, they're still rocking it over there. So it's not necessarily, you could come at a point in your life where you say, look, I don't need all these new things anymore. And I have only so many years left in my career and I'm going to spend them in a basement in some kind of insurance place. So it's not all bad, but it is something that I think you would have to just ponder for yourself.

Yeah, they're still rocking it over there. So it's not necessarily, you could come at a point in your life where you say, look, I don't need all these new things anymore. And I have only so many years left in my career and I'm going to spend them in a basement in some kind of insurance place. So it's not all bad, but it is something that I think you would have to just ponder for yourself.

Say, am I going to invest also? Because there comes a point in your life And I think we touched on this in this presentation also where I'm just saying, hey, these 2,000 dependencies, they're all bad. And there is a risk that at some point in your career, you go like, look, things used to be better and all this newfangled stuff is just wrong.

Say, am I going to invest also? Because there comes a point in your life And I think we touched on this in this presentation also where I'm just saying, hey, these 2,000 dependencies, they're all bad. And there is a risk that at some point in your career, you go like, look, things used to be better and all this newfangled stuff is just wrong.

And when you hit that point, you have to have a real good think. Am I leaving the industry behind? Am I just old now? I'm just sort of a sad person that sits there and say, well, in my time. And you should at least when it happens, it should be a conscious decision where you say, okay, I love this old stuff more and I'm not going to pretend that my old stuff is better.

And when you hit that point, you have to have a real good think. Am I leaving the industry behind? Am I just old now? I'm just sort of a sad person that sits there and say, well, in my time. And you should at least when it happens, it should be a conscious decision where you say, okay, I love this old stuff more and I'm not going to pretend that my old stuff is better.