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The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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See, I've heard that, but I've never had that confirmed by anybody. I don't think I ever talked to Jason about that. So I can't say whether or not, but from my understanding, the landowner, that's like his hunting area. He doesn't live in Texas and nobody really knew how to get ahold of him. And you know, you don't just go waltzing on somebody's property.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And since that guy honestly doesn't go down to Texas like every year or so, however they did it that yes, he owns the property, but he hardly is ever there. Yeah. So he doesn't have like a whole bunch of connections from my understanding that would, hinder or somebody would have to hinder that investigation at that point. So from my understanding is the guy just doesn't show up very often.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Gotcha. And if that's the case, I don't think he would have that kind of connection with the police. Cause if that's the case, Oh, I'll call up Terry, whatever his name, not that that's his name. I'm just throwing out a fake name. But so, you know, I would call up my bully and give permission.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Yeah, I talked to him straight out, and Jason said literally one week later, he got a phone call from the guy. He said, yeah, that's fine. You guys go out there. You guys search. Do whatever you got to do. I mean, don't let me stop you. Yeah.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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So where I went in my video, I was less than a mile from where the remains were. And, okay, so I messed up a little bit in that video because I pointed. I said, I believe – The remains were found on that side of the road. I was, I was wrong out the road side of the road that I was on was the side that the remains were found.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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So wherever his car was parked, he didn't cross the road to go into that side. he stayed on the one side of the road.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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like yeah that's kind of that's a weird thing to bring up i mean unless you've been out there searching and you're like like i can see that if he went out and like maybe he went searching on his own and then he was hearing it while he was searching and he's like was that that noise everybody's hearing yeah i can see that being a thing i did i did drive over the bridge myself going that direction if i remember correctly because you had to go over a bridge a little bit of a curve and then you're basically there right um

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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But, yeah, that's the only way I could see that somebody would know, oh, that's the sound of that bridge. Everybody knows it's out in the middle of nowhere. I mean, that seemed a little weird, but, like I said, maybe if he went out looking. I know I'm the youngest of 12, and if one of my brothers went missing, I'd probably be out there searching.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I'd never looked into the meth aspect of it. Um, I've heard a lot of people say, Oh, well he's a druggie. So what difference does it make? Well, that's kind of messed up. I don't know what your cursing thing is. I'm going to try not to, but, um, yeah, I don't think that's very cool, but, uh, Like I said, I've had family members that were drug addicts.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I think everybody knows somebody that was a drug addict at some point. So that's kind of like where I see everybody's, oh, well, he was on drugs. So that makes sense. I was like, I don't know. I don't know what meth does to somebody. I know what it does to their skin and their teeth. Yeah. And that's pretty messed up. But other than that, I don't know what a meth high is.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Is that on this recent trip you guys?

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I had one person who emailed me. I can't remember the name. I want to say Tom. I hope that's okay to even say. If not Tom, just be mad at me. I'm sorry. But He emailed me, and he had this entire story that he thinks happened. And he went into detail. He said that Brandon got busted for meth in Dallas. Or what's the other one?

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Fort Worth, because I've been to both. They're literally in the same place. I'm sorry about that. Texas, you guys are going to hate me. It's like connected. It's all one big spot. I know there's two different culture things there. Don't get mad at me.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Right. This guy's story said that he got busted down there. They moved him to San Angelo to put him into a sting operation to try and bust more drug dealers down there. So he moved his entire family down there, and then that's kind of what happened. So you think he was an informant?

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Yes, and that the Mexican expletives were the ones that were chasing him down because supposedly they figured this out.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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It's a good theory. It is a very interesting theory for sure, but at this point, without any evidence leading to that, it is just a theory. Oh, definitely. I don't want people to defend that. Who involved directly with that? Right, exactly. But yeah, like I said, it's an interesting thing. The guy had an entire thing about it.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Okay, so while I was down there, I talked with quite a few different people.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I did. I kind of do that with a lot of the places I go. I try and talk to, hey, do you know anything about this? Basically, my understanding – I do want to go back there. So, police, if you guys hear this, I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm just telling you what I heard.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That the police in that area kind of let things slide a lot because they don't really care too much as long as they're making a little bit of money themselves. From my understanding, there are quite a few of illegal casinos down there and stuff like that that the cops know about, but they don't stop. And that, again, is just something I heard from multiple people.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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One person told me that they had a relative who was a cop or something like that, and that they were offered a job at one of these casinos, and the cop basically told them, well, if we ever do decide to raid it, don't be there when we come. So, that, is it a real thing? I don't know. But it seemed like multiple people I talked to said that it's kind of sketchy with the police down there.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Almost like, I don't know if you guys looked into the – I did a video about John Lang from Fresno, California.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That – if there's a police – I don't want to say what I'm thinking – organization of police crime.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That one has a lot of information to point that, yeah, the cops were covering up this murder that they committed.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Oh, maybe. That was another thing that the guy who said that he was an informant said that he went to get gas that day before he left because it's a three-hour journey, three-and-a-half, four-hour journey. And why would you leave that low of gas? But supposedly that's where he first ran into him was at the gas station.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And he pulled up, and then those guys showed up. So he's like, I got to get the hell out of here. Quick, I'm going to stop talking because – Jason messaged me. He says he needs a link to join.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That's what I thought. He said he's actually in the chat right now.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Aiden, do you want to try and... As soon as I accepted the invite, the email disappeared.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Might want to send him another one. Weird. Sorry about that, Jason. I see you're in the chat, and I appreciate you, man.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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It doesn't mean he was still on it. That's what they were fighting about, him and Ledessa. I believe that's what they read anyways. But yeah, why would you try and make that journey on no fuel?

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And also, to me, it doesn't make any sense that... Okay, so I actually drove from San Angelo to Fort Worth. And I know he was going to Crowley, which is basically Fort Worth. Again, sorry, it's pretty close. And he was leaving at like midnight. No. Was it midnight that he left his house, which is a long journey to go just to spend the night with your parents.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I was. Do you want to tell people who you are? My name is Bert Moran. I have a YouTube channel here.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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uh where i go over spooky stuff but i also look into missile missing people cases and i try very my best not to let the two overlap where i know some people will oh they're missing that means we can use ghost equipment on them that's not a thing i don't do that um so basically what i do is i like to go out to locations just like you guys did and uh

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Hey, this is where it happened, and I've gone to a few pretty famous ones. I've actually gone to the Brandon Lawson case here that we're going over. That was an intense video just because I live in South Dakota. Oh, my God. And that's in Texas.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And I made that trip in one day. What? I did that one drive with a car full of my kids and my wife and kids.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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we drove over into san angelo got really lucky because i've always wanted to go there ever since i heard about the case and her aunt had moved to san angelo and said you guys should come check out her new house and i said yes you're like absolutely consider me there so yeah got really lucky on that one but yeah i did all-in-one drive 19 hours i think it was from 19 hours. Oh, I was tired.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I got there early. You got put the other kid to bed. I'm going to sleep. And they're like, really? I'm like, I just drove 19 hours.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That's something I also brought up and wanted to say. It was just because somebody, let's say, not saying he was, somebody was a drug addict or was on drugs does not make that person any less important than anybody else. Right.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Can I chime in with something? Sure. Let's say that he did, in fact, pass away closer to the car. Who's to say that a wild hog or some other kind of animal didn't pull him

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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But once you're there, it's almost a real, I want to say, whenever you get to a spot and you're like, okay, this is where it happened. This is what went down. This is insane. Yeah. I made the journey. It's pretty awesome.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Sorry. Understandably. Yeah. Okay, okay.

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I went to bed that night, next morning or the next day after we settled and did some other stuff. I was like, I got to go out to the spot. I got to go check this out. It's like itching. So you leave San Angelo, you're heading North. Um, you pass a good, uh, not, Goodyear tire, they drive on a thing there. Yeah. They have a track to test out Goodyear tires.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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People try to make it into a paranormal story, which, stop that. Don't do that.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Exactly. And I believe Jason told me himself that he had people who wanted him to bring him out to the site, and they were trying to bring ghost equipment and stuff like that, if I remember that story correctly. And you were like, get the hell out of here. That's not a thing. Two things I wanted to bring up.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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First off, one I wanted to get off right away was the speculation that Ledessa had anything to do with this is just completely trash like that doesn't make any sense that she would have anything to do with him going missing dying and then she keeps the damn case open what sense does that make none none none and the

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Okay, the only other thing I want to bring up is something I saw in the chat a lot where people were confused on why it took, after the clothes were found, why it took a couple of days for the law enforcement to get a proper search team in place.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And after that, you got pretty much nothing. Every once in a while, you come across like a little house out in the middle of nowhere. But other than that, like hardly anything except trees. And that's another thing that kind of took me by surprise is I've listened to that audio multiple times. He said a field.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And that's kind of opposite for me down here in South Dakota because our biggest city is Sioux Falls, and it's not huge.

The Lore Lads

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That's literally the largest city in South Dakota is Sioux Falls.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Okay, yeah, no, and South Dakota is a pretty big state. And then the town I live in is only 20,000, no, 18,000 people, I think. And that's considered a pretty substantial city around here, which obviously I've been to bigger cities. I just got back from Des Moines a couple months ago, which is Des Moines. Pretty decent-sized city, still pretty small.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Ran into a field. In my mind, I'm from South Dakota, so I think field. I think corn. I'm thinking beans. I'm thinking, you know, a field. At the very least, it's grass. Exactly. Exactly. And I did not expect it to be as full and, like, okay, treacherous is a good way to say it because random hills, very thick cacti, as I said in the video, the trees are pretty thick.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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You can't see very far into it.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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So I was kind of thrown away, thrown by that.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Because I expected more of a field. I've seen pictures. I've actually seen where the memorial and stuff where Carmen Hopp was. But yeah. And then another thing that they have down there is wild hogs. Is that something that you got to look out for? That was like one of the main things I wanted to know about because rattlesnakes, we have them here in South Dakota.

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I know they have them down in Texas. I didn't know what to expect.

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But yeah. They have wild hogs, stuff like that. And if you know anything about wild hogs.

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Exactly. It's actually one of the reasons me and you actually first interacted was I made a video about Brandon, and you were in the chat log. Yeah.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Okay, so at that point, There were quite a few, but I want to say that was probably like 2 o'clock in the afternoon on a Saturday, I want to say. So that, I'd probably say I saw at least 10 cars go by, but it's a lot different because I also drove it when I came into San Angelo. I actually came in on that 277. Yeah. That's a whole different story at night because it was few and far between.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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So that's what I'm curious about. Yeah, it's very few and far between. Whenever I first came into San Angelo, I came in on 277. And I think I remember seeing the spot where his car stopped because they have the memorial there.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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There was a case like that similar in Brookings, South Dakota, where a German professor was found with a bullet hole in the back of his skull. Obviously, he was deceased. Then they found the gun in a dumpster outside that had been wiped clean. And they also ruled that a suicide.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I can't figure out how you shoot yourself in the back of the dome, rinse or wipe off the prints, go outside, throw the dumpster, throw it in the dumpster, walk back out into the wherever you are and die. I can think of. You didn't. Exactly.

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It's just a male instead of a female. So basically when Samara Murray went to college, she told all of her professors, Hey, I'm going to be gone for a week. There's a family emergency. There was no family. Yeah.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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And just like, I'm 18 hours in, I'm dog tired. I look over, I'm like, there it is. See you tomorrow. Because I'm so tired. But I remember... Yeah, there weren't a whole lot of cars there.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Yeah. It's an interesting case. And then she just pulled over on the side of the road. Cause I believe it's car trouble. Uh, Somebody sees her, talks to her for a little bit. Oh, I can call the tow truck for you. And then by the time anybody shows up, she's gone. Just no, no question. Like, no idea where she went.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Cool. Yeah. Jason has also in private expressed his, an interest in the Brandon Swanson case.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I'm a busy guy. And if you get the chance and you come up here, obviously I will take you there whenever you need.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That'd be perfect. Yeah, I know exactly how to get there. And that one, that's just, like we said before, it has so many similarities to the Brandon Lawson case. Whenever I made my Brandon Lawson video to begin with, people were like, you got this wrong. It's Brandon Swanson. And I'm like, no. No, I didn't get anything wrong yet.

The Lore Lads

An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Sounds good. I watch this every week.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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So to be part of it, I'm not going to just, like, leave. That's fair.

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Wendussy milk sounds like something you would have to drink to become part of the cult.

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I've never seen the sea. This is why I don't want to be in Central America.

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No, no, no. I can't tell you I don't really know any sea shanties, but I have heard them, but to actually know them by name, no idea. Yeah. The only one that I know would probably be, like, something from Spongebob because my niece was singing Shave My Beard with a Rusty Razor. Is that a thing?

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Yeah, that's about as, like, sea shanty that I get. Like I said, South Dakota, I've been landlocked most of my life.

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That's amazing. That is amazing.

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I saw that comment. I actually screenshotted it on my phone because I was going to bring it up. But yes, I saw that too, and I found that very interesting because... Everything I see that all the calls were being forwarded to that nursing home, which I thought was very weird. But I guess I kind of understand. But San Angelo is not exactly a small town.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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That reminds me of a joke my son tells me all the time. He's five years old, and his favorite joke is, knock, knock, who's there? Interrupting cow, interrupting cow, and he yells moo.

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I never heard that one until I got older, and then he was telling me it, and I was like, yeah, that's pretty good.

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When I was a kid, okay, so I'm actually part Native American. I grew up on a reservation, and we just had terribly dirty jokes as children. And it's like, thinking back now, why did I know so many dirty jokes whenever I was, like, third grade?

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Could you imagine how much that would cost to taste moon cheese?

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You have to be able to lactate, so technically the Big Bang would come before all of that.

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This is all about somebody's super chat of moon cheese.

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Was that on your personal channel?

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Twitch, okay. I've considered doing a 24-hour livestream just on YouTube, but I would simply have to sleep, I would think.

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I've stayed up to the point where my leg stopped working while I was running.

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My body was like, you need to go to sleep now. And I'm like, I'm kind of raising hell in the middle of this town, to be honest with you. But my legs were just, hey, you can't walk anymore. It was bad. Yeah.

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The fact that with a phone call, pretty much everything you just said kind of bugged me that why didn't they go look for this right away? Why was it the trucker's responsibility to call in to get somebody out there in the first place because the truck was parked haphazardly into the road? That and the fact that there was basically no trace of him.

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Yeah, that's crazy. I was going to ask, the first time you guys went to that location that you guys just got back from, what month was it?

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I remember Wendigoon looked pretty concerned for you. If that's the video I'm thinking of. Yeah, probably.

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I believe they had search dogs at one point, but the search dog led him in the wrong direction. Yeah. Which happens. I love search dogs. I love all the resources they have, but they're wrong sometimes. They're not always 100% right, and people like to argue that, but it's just what it is.

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I had a 78 Camaro and I had an 81 Camaro and I full-on hit a deer on the interstate with my 78. The deer actually hit me. It came out of the ditch

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And another thing that bothered me with the whole phone call thing was after he called his brother, Kyle, and he mentioned that he was bleeding.

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hauling ass i was obviously speeding and that's what you do yeah yeah so perhaps breaking the law yeah maybe maybe not definitely was and uh the damn deer came out with a buck i had t-top so you can see through the windshield or the windows um this deer comes out of the ditch hits the front quarter uh I want to say front quarter panel, not quarter panel, front fender and door rips the mirror off.

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The deer does a flip over the car. I'm like, holy crap. I just destroyed my Camaro. And I was like 10 miles from my house. So I was like, you know what? My car's still running. I was going to drive to the house, see how bad the damage is. And I just ripped the mirror off. Like there was no dent. There was no scratch, nothing. Just ripped the mirror off. And I, my father owned a junkyard.

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So I got another mirror like the next day.

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I've, you've been hiking. Yeah. You've been out in places. If I'm talking to somebody on the phone, if I get like a scratch or if I like bust a knuckle open, I don't really care to mention that to anybody.

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As soon as you turn 27, this is all you start talking about.

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You guys seen the Brandon Herrera thing where they gave him the Purple Heart? They gave him a Purple Heart? The guy from the podcast did.

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Oh, I'm bleeding. It's not, oh, I'm bleeding. You know, if I'm saying I'm bleeding, I'm in trouble. I'm bleeding and that's not good. That's the only way.

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They were asking people, if you have a Purple Heart and you want to give it to Brandon Herrera, do it. So I jumped online and I found somebody selling one. I thought, man. If I could buy that, just, like, send it to you guys to give to them, that would be crazy.

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I kind of have the thing going at the same time.

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I did not. No, I should have, but I never listened to it. I didn't even know it was a thing until you brought that up.

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Find me on YouTube at Local Legends Bert Moran, or I think it's probably best if you just look up Bert Moran because a million people have tried to take Local Legends now.

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Yeah, Burton Moran. Go with Burton Moran. Local legends is a lot, but I'm going to keep it on there.

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Yes, thank you guys. I appreciate the hell out of it. I'm almost to the point where I'm monetized. I have the subscribers. I just don't have the time. How many watch hours are you at? Watch hours. I am at like 2,000. Almost 3,000 watch hours.

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Exactly. And okay. So watch, I'm going to throw out, obviously the Brandon Swanson, Brandon Lawson videos. Also, I did the Chris McCandless video. I, if you go and watch that video and you see, did you watch it? part of it.

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Perfect. Um, the parts where the, the text comes up with excerpts out of his journal, that was, I took a picture of his pages. I went through his actual journal.

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Journals. He had many of them, but yeah. So like I, I went deep into this video and I met his boss and I, his boss wanted me to send him the link, but I haven't sent him the link. Cause I want that video to have more views because he honest, he deserves it. Cause he, he, he's crazy in full of information and I just, I felt bad taking up his time.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I'll put it up. The earth is not flat. Um, throw that out there. Uh, love you guys on the unsubscribed podcast. That was an awesome episode. Uh, I'm a fan of those guys now because of you guys as well. Cause everybody's like, you're going to be on that show. I'm like, the hell is that?

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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It's really cool. Um, but yeah, I find me on YouTube. That's where I'm trying to do things. I got tick tock, but it's a burden ran on there.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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Yeah, absolutely. And if you guys are ever doing a case where you need somebody to go and check out the area, that's somewhat relatively close to me. I'm down. I'm actually considering going to the spot where the guy possibly slid his own throat in the hammock.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I'm considering it's like eight and nine hours from here, but,

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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The reason I was not in National Treasure 2. They were advertising on the radio. I lived in Rapid City at the time where Mount Rushmore is. And they said, if you want to be a background extra in a movie, National Treasure 2 is filming down in Mount Rushmore on this day. Be there for a chance to be in the movie. And I was like, I'm going to be there. And then something happened.

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It's the one that you mentioned on the show.

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I don't know if I freaking zoned out, but the radio comes on. They have finished filming National Treasure 2 in the Mount Rushmore area. And I'm like, I missed it. I missed it. I can't believe I missed it.

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It's like one of the greatest movies.

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People who tell me they don't like history, I'm like, it's stories. It's stories. It's amazing.

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Yeah. That's the way I always put it.

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An Interview With Jason Watts | Podcast Episode 147

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I can't tell you how many people I've met that think dragons were real.

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I'm like, you stop watching that.

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Helps me not have to talk so much. I appreciate the hell out of you guys.