Beth Lyons

I love, I think that you're so smart to spend the time upfront to do that because you know, how is that any different than writing a persona message or back in the day?

Or isn't this always also still going to be part of onboarding Beth, don't you think?

Or just like initial, like, okay, Carl, your, your, your child is in elementary.

So even go back a few years, could you imagine that there's like, this is done at like,

pre-K or kindergarten level, when a child has developed enough of their own personality that certain characteristics and traits, I definitely know my child at that time had certain characteristics and traits that are still very much part of her at 15, well, 10 years later, right?

So you wonder if we're, as we move into this new sort of world of managing agents and everybody's sort of more at that project manager level.

And by the way, I did say I was going to bring up Jeff's, man, it's buried now, but I do want to find Jeff's comment that he had earlier.

Wait, Jeff.

It's so buried now.

I can't find it.

Yeah, yeah.

Thanks.

I have to keep scrolling back.

But anyway, as we become more of these project managers of things happening, like you say, Carl, hey, I'm going to go get a beer and watch the Super Bowl.

Go take a shot at this website for me.

Let's just see what happens, right?

That is just fundamentally different than anything we've done before.

in the past.

And so Jeff had said, I'm not really a software developer anymore.

I'm an agent manager, you know, with a shrugging emoji.