Beth Lyons

There are a couple pieces of that, too.

Cowork is only for Mac, right?

Right now, you can only use Cowork on Mac, and Mac isn't the dominant business system.

It is, perhaps, in the creative parts, but...

But Windows still has a pretty big market share compared to Apple in the business systems.

And then you add... So I've had a couple of people come to me and say...

Hey, I know I'm using AI as a spicy Google, right?

Like fancy.

Like a fancy Google.

I am just asking a question.

Sorry, I thought you said spicy.

I don't mean spicy like that.

Okay.

We all know they're using Grok.

Here we go.

But the gap between, hey, I'd like to use this more skillfully, get better at this and have it be something that impacts my life and being able to do that is big.

I mean, we hope that as a show, we're helping to answer some of those questions, but it's super personalized.

And most people lose about 10 hours going through YouTube videos until they find one that they want to follow.

And there isn't a really good, I mean, obviously if you're coming to the business, listen to Carl, do what Carl has set up for you to do as a way to learn what's happening.

But also like hackathon workshops, they can't be called hackathons though, because these people that I'm thinking of would not go to a hackathon workshop, right?