Beth Lyons

And in that interface,

they are more similar than not.

I can't speak here of the terminal.

In the desktop, they are more similar than not.

what the people who really understand what the code base says that's been leaked say has has been you know what what danger is this to to anthropic yeah and i want to bring this up too because greg is saying pretty much the same thing i am which is 95 of the users do not use the thing you call terminal right i look i can't say 95 there's plenty of plenty of plenty of people who prefer the terminal

But I come at it more from like the consulting brain, which is just where I sit.

And I get that, that that is not the user interface that my clients are going to be using.

It would be extremely rare for me to talk to an AE or somebody in marketing or anybody across the go to market teams in a normal SM, you know, small to medium enterprise, right?

SME.

that is building in the terminal.

You're going to find people.

Don't get me wrong.

I talked to a client yesterday and he's gotten really good at lovable.

Lovable, right?

And so that part of it, I just find that it's few and far between.

It's not to diminish what you're saying, Beth, about the power of people who do use the terminal, but

I'm probably, I mean, the way I look at this is I have seen what Claude has published in the pace at which, nevermind the leaks and stuff that happened, but the pace at which it published.

Matt Wolf was saying on his AI wrap-up video from Friday that it's something like 52 releases in 30 days or something like that, right?

They are releasing at an insane pace.

I mean, we just saw you.