Beth Lyons

But yeah, they do very cool stuff.

What I like about them is that they seem to be doing their own research trajectory.

You're not seeing other people like, oh, I got something that can play chess.

Well, I got something that can play chess in 3D, right?

They're really going their own track, and I love that.

Largest, highest valued private company in Japan.

I think it's going to go away in a, I don't know how it's going to go.

But yes, I think there will be an interface in the front and then there will be things on the back end that get changed a little more like code updates get changed.

What I'm thinking as you're saying it is that it is sort of the downside of do you still need your SaaS?

Do you still need your Salesforce?

The Salesforce update process is that there are three updates a year.

There's stuff that gets worked on all the time, right?

There's a whole voting process about what gets fixed and that kind of stuff.

There are three updates a year.

You go and you look and see when your thing is going to get updated.

You don't have a choice.

You can't say, oh, no, I don't want the update.

These are pushed.

And then the admins and generally it's like all anyone with a Salesforce certification is ready to work 24 hours on that weekend to see if anything got broken and fix it.

And as someone like you can't do that as a solo, I mean, you even scaled can't do that.