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Yes.

It would be great because they help to understand the parameters, maybe formulate, maybe quantify, create models, but ultimately you need to experiment.

Yeah, absolutely.

That's why there's definitely a lot of benefit to those models, predictions, because they at least help the experimentalist to come up with the priors and parameterize things better, maybe eliminate very obvious dead ends early on, given that experiments take such a long time and it's a huge investment.

And no one's a better experimentalist than nature, so...

You really want to make me sad.

You're not going to win.

So the proposition I made, I like to think of it as protospermia rather than panspermia.

Because it's even more proto-state than acknowledging.

Because in panspermia, you still have a cell.

You still have something that is very, even a cell to me would be very Earth-like.

I'm talking at sub-cellular level in the proposition of spreading chemistry.

Exactly.

It will be more like the fertilizer that is well-adopted and compatible with that planetary body.

In panspermia, you're still imagining either an entire bacteria or microbe or a cell or something that is DNA, which is still terran.

Yeah.

But in terms of panspermia, I mean, obviously, there's going to be always room for those sort of discussions, or there will be...

Those discussions will always be present, I think, in any life in universe debates.

But the problem I have with panspermia is that it removes the problem from the planet to somewhere else.

It makes it