Bible Expert (likely Wesley Huff or a co-host closely involved with Biblical scholarship)

Yeah. Orthodox friends. So...

Yeah. Orthodox friends. So...

Yes. And even some of the people that like fought Luther on it, um, were sympathetic to some, to what the first debate of the reformation was between a guy named Desiderius Erasmus. He was Dutch. And the first debate was a written debate between him and Luther on the freedom of the will versus the bondage of the will. And, um, Erasmus could have been like a closet reformer in some things.

Yes. And even some of the people that like fought Luther on it, um, were sympathetic to some, to what the first debate of the reformation was between a guy named Desiderius Erasmus. He was Dutch. And the first debate was a written debate between him and Luther on the freedom of the will versus the bondage of the will. And, um, Erasmus could have been like a closet reformer in some things.

Yes. And even some of the people that like fought Luther on it, um, were sympathetic to some, to what the first debate of the reformation was between a guy named Desiderius Erasmus. He was Dutch. And the first debate was a written debate between him and Luther on the freedom of the will versus the bondage of the will. And, um, Erasmus could have been like a closet reformer in some things.

But there were lots of people. I mean, there was a whole period of time with popes and anti-popes.

But there were lots of people. I mean, there was a whole period of time with popes and anti-popes.

But there were lots of people. I mean, there was a whole period of time with popes and anti-popes.

Yeah. Well, so you have another Reformer guy a little bit later on after Luther named John Calvin. He's in France or he's in, well, he's French, but he's in Switzerland. And so he's in Geneva and the bishop of Geneva at the time actually writes to Salido, Cardinal Salido, writes to Salido. the people in Switzerland and Geneva and says, like, you got to come back to the true church.

Yeah. Well, so you have another Reformer guy a little bit later on after Luther named John Calvin. He's in France or he's in, well, he's French, but he's in Switzerland. And so he's in Geneva and the bishop of Geneva at the time actually writes to Salido, Cardinal Salido, writes to Salido. the people in Switzerland and Geneva and says, like, you got to come back to the true church.

Yeah. Well, so you have another Reformer guy a little bit later on after Luther named John Calvin. He's in France or he's in, well, he's French, but he's in Switzerland. And so he's in Geneva and the bishop of Geneva at the time actually writes to Salido, Cardinal Salido, writes to Salido. the people in Switzerland and Geneva and says, like, you got to come back to the true church.

Like, you're in danger of damnation. Come back. And the elderly Calvin comes out of retirement. He actually writes this letter to Cardinal Salido and he says, you got it wrong. We are. the original church. We don't need to go home.

Like, you're in danger of damnation. Come back. And the elderly Calvin comes out of retirement. He actually writes this letter to Cardinal Salido and he says, you got it wrong. We are. the original church. We don't need to go home.

Like, you're in danger of damnation. Come back. And the elderly Calvin comes out of retirement. He actually writes this letter to Cardinal Salido and he says, you got it wrong. We are. the original church. We don't need to go home.

You need to come home because you have, we've scraped all the moss off of the facade of Christianity and all that tradition that's dividing you from what scripture actually is telling you, what the core of the faith adheres to. And so you've lost the script. Yeah.

You need to come home because you have, we've scraped all the moss off of the facade of Christianity and all that tradition that's dividing you from what scripture actually is telling you, what the core of the faith adheres to. And so you've lost the script. Yeah.

You need to come home because you have, we've scraped all the moss off of the facade of Christianity and all that tradition that's dividing you from what scripture actually is telling you, what the core of the faith adheres to. And so you've lost the script. Yeah.

Yeah, great question. So he didn't. What does that mean, the Apocrypha? So Roman Catholics and Protestants have different number of books in their Bibles. So this is part of why I was in Italy, because we went to Trento in Italy, where the Council of Trent happened, where the Council of Trent was the Counter-Reformation. So 1546 to 1563, I think it was.

Yeah, great question. So he didn't. What does that mean, the Apocrypha? So Roman Catholics and Protestants have different number of books in their Bibles. So this is part of why I was in Italy, because we went to Trento in Italy, where the Council of Trent happened, where the Council of Trent was the Counter-Reformation. So 1546 to 1563, I think it was.

Yeah, great question. So he didn't. What does that mean, the Apocrypha? So Roman Catholics and Protestants have different number of books in their Bibles. So this is part of why I was in Italy, because we went to Trento in Italy, where the Council of Trent happened, where the Council of Trent was the Counter-Reformation. So 1546 to 1563, I think it was.