Big Steve

Good morning, Jared.

Hodge, not sure if he's still there, but if you are, I just want to say long-suffering Swans fan.

So love and hate relationship with Hodge.

Love the idea of him in a red and white jumper.

Hate what he did to us throughout his career.

But love his expertise.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Swans at the moment.

So obviously you can't argue with the position on the ladder.

I suppose my concern is a lot of close games being won against sort of relatively mediocre teams.

Are the Swans in a position where they're just sort of underperforming and getting...

Are they just doing what's required to get the wins when they need them?

G'day, Jared.

How are you?

I'm well, thank you.

Mate, this, like in your stuff, the reason why Commonwealth are going up is because you haven't got a top five draft pick in the draft, right?

It's Chuck Lotto.

Have you ever asked yourself why there's so many 30-year-olds playing or why so many mid-season draftees are getting games?

Because the players, the clubs are drafting and cutting it.

I don't know if it's development.

I don't know what it is.