Bik Nazar

So there were a lot of things that he was involved with that a president would be involved with one way or another.

So the hiring, as much as he was inexperienced, there were things on a CV that would qualify him to be in the role somewhat, right?

Yeah.

A lot of these guys, like Sam Ventura, Ryan Johnson, they're not qualified to jump in and be presidents and do that duty.

And that's not to take anything away from them.

I would imagine if you ask them, that's asking too much of them too.

And I think that's where, to me, the sequencing matters in this situation.

Because if you bring somebody else in and somebody above them, if you bring them in together...

different story.

Like for instance, like if you have Ryan Johnson as the guy you want to make the GM and he's at least involved in the discussions around the VP or the potential new VP, potential new president, could you work through it together where it's like, hey, can we see if these guys are on the same page?

And if they are, you move forward.

Again, I think you should figure it out and then make the hires.

But if you have Ryan involved in the process when you're hiring the president, it could have worked that way.

Would that mitigate some of the concerns that we have about, hey, you're just going to bring somebody else in to be his boss that he didn't hire in the first place, and then you're going to have this question about can they work together moving forward?

Can you figure that out in the process with Ryan being involved?

If it's Ryan.

Again, just hypothetical saying if it's Ryan.

Yeah, and I think that's what Rutherford was trying to get across.

I think a lot of his messaging was obviously to the fans and to the market here.

But I wonder how much of that was also messaging to the hockey community at large that, hey, if you have interest in this job or we're coming to talk to you, you are going to have autonomy here.