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Bill Ackman

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

Yes, there's certainly a tension. And I think, first of all, I think free speech is incredibly important and I'm on the side. I'm a lot closer to absolutism on free speech than otherwise. The issue I had was the hypocrisy, right? They were restricting other kinds of speech on campus, principally conservative speech, conservative views. So it wasn't a free speech absolutist campus.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

Yes, there's certainly a tension. And I think, first of all, I think free speech is incredibly important and I'm on the side. I'm a lot closer to absolutism on free speech than otherwise. The issue I had was the hypocrisy, right? They were restricting other kinds of speech on campus, principally conservative speech, conservative views. So it wasn't a free speech absolutist campus.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

Yes, there's certainly a tension. And I think, first of all, I think free speech is incredibly important and I'm on the side. I'm a lot closer to absolutism on free speech than otherwise. The issue I had was the hypocrisy, right? They were restricting other kinds of speech on campus, principally conservative speech, conservative views. So it wasn't a free speech absolutist campus.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And the protests were actually quite threatening to students. And there are limits to even absolutist free speech. And they begin where people feel, you know, intimidation, harassment, and threat to bodily harm, et cetera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And the protests were actually quite threatening to students. And there are limits to even absolutist free speech. And they begin where people feel, you know, intimidation, harassment, and threat to bodily harm, et cetera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And the protests were actually quite threatening to students. And there are limits to even absolutist free speech. And they begin where people feel, you know, intimidation, harassment, and threat to bodily harm, et cetera.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

That kind of speech is generally, again, it's pretty technical, but as people feel that they're an imminent harm by virtue of the protest, that speech is at risk of not meeting the standards for free speech. But Harvard is a private corporation. And as a private corporation, they can put on what restrictions they want.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

That kind of speech is generally, again, it's pretty technical, but as people feel that they're an imminent harm by virtue of the protest, that speech is at risk of not meeting the standards for free speech. But Harvard is a private corporation. And as a private corporation, they can put on what restrictions they want.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

That kind of speech is generally, again, it's pretty technical, but as people feel that they're an imminent harm by virtue of the protest, that speech is at risk of not meeting the standards for free speech. But Harvard is a private corporation. And as a private corporation, they can put on what restrictions they want.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And Harvard had introduced only a few months before bullying and harassment policies. And that's why Representative Stefanik focused on, it's not like she said, it's calling for genocide against the Jews, violate your free speech policy. She says, it's calling for genocide against the Jews, violate your policies on bullying and harassment.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And Harvard had introduced only a few months before bullying and harassment policies. And that's why Representative Stefanik focused on, it's not like she said, it's calling for genocide against the Jews, violate your free speech policy. She says, it's calling for genocide against the Jews, violate your policies on bullying and harassment.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And Harvard had introduced only a few months before bullying and harassment policies. And that's why Representative Stefanik focused on, it's not like she said, it's calling for genocide against the Jews, violate your free speech policy. She says, it's calling for genocide against the Jews, violate your policies on bullying and harassment.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And I think everyone looked at this when they said, it depends on the context. And they said, look, if you replace Jews with some other ethnic group, students have been, who've used the N word, for example, have been thrown off campus or suspended, you know, students who've, you know, hate speech directed at LGBTQ people. has led to disciplinary action.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And I think everyone looked at this when they said, it depends on the context. And they said, look, if you replace Jews with some other ethnic group, students have been, who've used the N word, for example, have been thrown off campus or suspended, you know, students who've, you know, hate speech directed at LGBTQ people. has led to disciplinary action.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

And I think everyone looked at this when they said, it depends on the context. And they said, look, if you replace Jews with some other ethnic group, students have been, who've used the N word, for example, have been thrown off campus or suspended, you know, students who've, you know, hate speech directed at LGBTQ people. has led to disciplinary action.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

But, you know, attacking, spitting on Jewish students or, you know, kind of roughing them up a bit seemed like, you know, or calling for their elimination didn't seem to violate the policy. So it's, you know, look, I think a university should be a place where you have broad views and open viewpoints and broad discussion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

But, you know, attacking, spitting on Jewish students or, you know, kind of roughing them up a bit seemed like, you know, or calling for their elimination didn't seem to violate the policy. So it's, you know, look, I think a university should be a place where you have broad views and open viewpoints and broad discussion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

But, you know, attacking, spitting on Jewish students or, you know, kind of roughing them up a bit seemed like, you know, or calling for their elimination didn't seem to violate the policy. So it's, you know, look, I think a university should be a place where you have broad views and open viewpoints and broad discussion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

But it should also be a place where students don't feel threatened going to class, where their learning is not interrupted. when final exams are not interrupted by people coming in with loud protest. Students asked me when I went up there, what would you do if you were Harvard president? I said, and this was before I knew what was happening on the Dartmouth campus.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#413 โ€“ Bill Ackman: Investing, Financial Battles, Harvard, DEI, X & Free Speech

But it should also be a place where students don't feel threatened going to class, where their learning is not interrupted. when final exams are not interrupted by people coming in with loud protest. Students asked me when I went up there, what would you do if you were Harvard president? I said, and this was before I knew what was happening on the Dartmouth campus.