Bill Gates
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Yeah, so I'm very involved in that because You know, we have to both do climate mitigation and climate adaptation. And adaptation, a part of that's dealing with water shortages and more difficult weather. It takes a certain amount of energy to desalinate water.
Yeah, so I'm very involved in that because You know, we have to both do climate mitigation and climate adaptation. And adaptation, a part of that's dealing with water shortages and more difficult weather. It takes a certain amount of energy to desalinate water.
Yeah, so I'm very involved in that because You know, we have to both do climate mitigation and climate adaptation. And adaptation, a part of that's dealing with water shortages and more difficult weather. It takes a certain amount of energy to desalinate water.
And so only by bringing the cost of energy down with things like solar or perhaps nuclear fission or fusion, then you get more water availability. 80% of water is used for agriculture. So you can afford to desalinate water for human consumption. You can't really afford to do it for agriculture, so you have to end up moving your farms to the places where there's enough water.
And so only by bringing the cost of energy down with things like solar or perhaps nuclear fission or fusion, then you get more water availability. 80% of water is used for agriculture. So you can afford to desalinate water for human consumption. You can't really afford to do it for agriculture, so you have to end up moving your farms to the places where there's enough water.
And so only by bringing the cost of energy down with things like solar or perhaps nuclear fission or fusion, then you get more water availability. 80% of water is used for agriculture. So you can afford to desalinate water for human consumption. You can't really afford to do it for agriculture, so you have to end up moving your farms to the places where there's enough water.
You don't want to pay to desalinate just to grow water.
You don't want to pay to desalinate just to grow water.
You don't want to pay to desalinate just to grow water.
Well, I'm very hopeful that between expanding wind and solar and getting both types of nuclear, nuclear fission and fusion, to get safer and cheaper, that even with all this demand for energy, like electric cars or electric heat pumps, AI data centers, that we'll be able to get ahead of that and still have cheap electricity, even though we'll get rid of all of the terrible CO2 emissions.
Well, I'm very hopeful that between expanding wind and solar and getting both types of nuclear, nuclear fission and fusion, to get safer and cheaper, that even with all this demand for energy, like electric cars or electric heat pumps, AI data centers, that we'll be able to get ahead of that and still have cheap electricity, even though we'll get rid of all of the terrible CO2 emissions.
Well, I'm very hopeful that between expanding wind and solar and getting both types of nuclear, nuclear fission and fusion, to get safer and cheaper, that even with all this demand for energy, like electric cars or electric heat pumps, AI data centers, that we'll be able to get ahead of that and still have cheap electricity, even though we'll get rid of all of the terrible CO2 emissions.
So we are going to have to transition away from coal and natural gas in the decades ahead.
So we are going to have to transition away from coal and natural gas in the decades ahead.
So we are going to have to transition away from coal and natural gas in the decades ahead.
Not if we innovate the cost of these other things down. Electric cars are getting cheaper. Eventually, you do get to the point where the substitute is as cheap as the dirty thing was. And in the long run, that's what we need to do so that we get global adoption of green approaches.
Not if we innovate the cost of these other things down. Electric cars are getting cheaper. Eventually, you do get to the point where the substitute is as cheap as the dirty thing was. And in the long run, that's what we need to do so that we get global adoption of green approaches.
Not if we innovate the cost of these other things down. Electric cars are getting cheaper. Eventually, you do get to the point where the substitute is as cheap as the dirty thing was. And in the long run, that's what we need to do so that we get global adoption of green approaches.
You know, absolutely. And we measure that. You know, anybody who buys an electric car as you say, it's not zero emissions, but it is dramatically less than a gasoline car. And we're learning to make the batteries using less energy and less environmental things like new ways of finding lithium. And so the accounting on, okay, how do we have the most environmentally clean car
You know, absolutely. And we measure that. You know, anybody who buys an electric car as you say, it's not zero emissions, but it is dramatically less than a gasoline car. And we're learning to make the batteries using less energy and less environmental things like new ways of finding lithium. And so the accounting on, okay, how do we have the most environmentally clean car