Bill Gates

Yeah. So if you're watching the video, though, it's very easy to think this guy is rude, pedantic, and disrespectful. I'm not out on a limb saying that opinion. If anybody watches this video, that is just the obvious takeaway.

Yeah. So if you're watching the video, though, it's very easy to think this guy is rude, pedantic, and disrespectful. I'm not out on a limb saying that opinion. If anybody watches this video, that is just the obvious takeaway.

Yes. So a couple examples. I'm not exaggerating here. The deposition really does come across as just showing pure disdain for the prosecutor and the questions he's asking. Bill Gates rat holes on things like refusing to answer questions about memorandums since they were not memos, but emails. So I couldn't possibly answer you on the question about the memorandum.

Yes. So a couple examples. I'm not exaggerating here. The deposition really does come across as just showing pure disdain for the prosecutor and the questions he's asking. Bill Gates rat holes on things like refusing to answer questions about memorandums since they were not memos, but emails. So I couldn't possibly answer you on the question about the memorandum.

At one point, he does look at David Boies and ask him how he would define the word definition, of course, while smirking the whole time. And so the whole thing is like very obviously tailored with this idea that I'm going to give you pages and pages and pages of which you will have nothing that can be used against me. And that is the whole strategy. I don't care how I come across.

At one point, he does look at David Boies and ask him how he would define the word definition, of course, while smirking the whole time. And so the whole thing is like very obviously tailored with this idea that I'm going to give you pages and pages and pages of which you will have nothing that can be used against me. And that is the whole strategy. I don't care how I come across.

I don't care how ticky tacky the language is. You know, he sits and pauses forever. He'll say, well, you asked me what the person who sent this was referring to. How should I know what they're referring to? I didn't write the email. You'd have to ask them. I don't know. And so it's 20 hours of this.

I don't care how ticky tacky the language is. You know, he sits and pauses forever. He'll say, well, you asked me what the person who sent this was referring to. How should I know what they're referring to? I didn't write the email. You'd have to ask them. I don't know. And so it's 20 hours of this.

Well, somehow, and I actually don't really know how this happened, after the deposition is recorded, on October 9th, the judge then issued a reversal saying that videotaped depositions are indeed allowed to be used in court. Oof. Yeah. How did this hold up? And if you give a great prosecutor like David Boies this opportunity, he uses it masterfully.

Well, somehow, and I actually don't really know how this happened, after the deposition is recorded, on October 9th, the judge then issued a reversal saying that videotaped depositions are indeed allowed to be used in court. Oof. Yeah. How did this hold up? And if you give a great prosecutor like David Boies this opportunity, he uses it masterfully.

And so throughout the trial, he'd show little clips at strategic moments in the trial where he either wanted to give the press something juicy to write about that day because there's a whole press section in the back going and listening to all the witnesses every single day. Or he would play something he knows is going to get a rise out of the judge.

And so throughout the trial, he'd show little clips at strategic moments in the trial where he either wanted to give the press something juicy to write about that day because there's a whole press section in the back going and listening to all the witnesses every single day. Or he would play something he knows is going to get a rise out of the judge.

And if the judge makes an expression, then the press writes about, oh, the judge is leaning this way or that way. Also, he would use it any time there was an opportunity to feel sympathetic for Gates or anyone at Microsoft, and then he would show a clip that sort of clearly causes you to lose any sympathy or leaning. And so it was just dripped out in this really clever way.

And if the judge makes an expression, then the press writes about, oh, the judge is leaning this way or that way. Also, he would use it any time there was an opportunity to feel sympathetic for Gates or anyone at Microsoft, and then he would show a clip that sort of clearly causes you to lose any sympathy or leaning. And so it was just dripped out in this really clever way.

That is a great question, David. And one of the things that I read to prepare for this episode is a book called World War 3.0, which is exclusively about this trial. And the author has this comment on it. Microsoft feared that Judge Jackson was a foe. He had made a number of pretrial rulings deemed hostile to the company.

That is a great question, David. And one of the things that I read to prepare for this episode is a book called World War 3.0, which is exclusively about this trial. And the author has this comment on it. Microsoft feared that Judge Jackson was a foe. He had made a number of pretrial rulings deemed hostile to the company.

They were especially unhappy that he modified the pretrial order that depositions shall only be submitted in transcript form, issuing a new order allowing videotaped depositions. Microsoft suspected that Justice had somehow prevailed on Jackson to amend his earlier court ruling. Jackson categorically denied this, but does not recall exactly why he issued the October 9th ruling.

They were especially unhappy that he modified the pretrial order that depositions shall only be submitted in transcript form, issuing a new order allowing videotaped depositions. Microsoft suspected that Justice had somehow prevailed on Jackson to amend his earlier court ruling. Jackson categorically denied this, but does not recall exactly why he issued the October 9th ruling.

They groused, but only in the most unguarded private moments because they were terrified of offending him that Jackson was biased and would rule in favor of the government. So your question of how does it hold up? I guess there was no formal challenge of that change in rule.

They groused, but only in the most unguarded private moments because they were terrified of offending him that Jackson was biased and would rule in favor of the government. So your question of how does it hold up? I guess there was no formal challenge of that change in rule.