Bill Gates
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So Facebook on the pages for businesses would use Bing Maps. And there was all this sort of reciprocal things that the company did together.
So Facebook on the pages for businesses would use Bing Maps. And there was all this sort of reciprocal things that the company did together.
Yep. So right around this time, June of 2008, Bill Gates leaves the company full-time. It is an actual retirement. I'm no longer chief software architect. I am still chairman of the board, but I'm going to go be the... Full-time at the foundation. Exactly, at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
Yep. So right around this time, June of 2008, Bill Gates leaves the company full-time. It is an actual retirement. I'm no longer chief software architect. I am still chairman of the board, but I'm going to go be the... Full-time at the foundation. Exactly, at the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
But that was sort of the view at the time. I mean, this really shows you how irrelevant people thought Microsoft was.
But that was sort of the view at the time. I mean, this really shows you how irrelevant people thought Microsoft was.
No one would have been saying this about Microsoft in the Windows 95 timeframe, but after the obsession with enterprise, the complete failure in consumer markets, but importantly, the complete ignoring of what the exciting developer platforms were at the time, open source, the web.
No one would have been saying this about Microsoft in the Windows 95 timeframe, but after the obsession with enterprise, the complete failure in consumer markets, but importantly, the complete ignoring of what the exciting developer platforms were at the time, open source, the web.
I mean, if you think about where all the development efforts were going, it was the LAMP stack, the Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, the stuff Facebook was written on. That's in a different universe from Microsoft's enterprise developer customers. So I just think you need developer excitement if you're going to have consumer excitement.
I mean, if you think about where all the development efforts were going, it was the LAMP stack, the Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP, the stuff Facebook was written on. That's in a different universe from Microsoft's enterprise developer customers. So I just think you need developer excitement if you're going to have consumer excitement.
I mean, or you need to develop every interesting app on your platform yourself, but that's just not how it goes. So that consumer and developer excitement goes hand in hand.
I mean, or you need to develop every interesting app on your platform yourself, but that's just not how it goes. So that consumer and developer excitement goes hand in hand.
Yeah, I think that's right. I think a set of technologies were breaking through. People were just going to use those devices and that software no matter what. The era today is one where users have way more choice in what they use at work than they did in that early 2000s era, and the iPhone sort of forced that door open.
Yeah, I think that's right. I think a set of technologies were breaking through. People were just going to use those devices and that software no matter what. The era today is one where users have way more choice in what they use at work than they did in that early 2000s era, and the iPhone sort of forced that door open.
Or they were developing cool new stuff that would then get killed because it's not a part of the Windows machine. I mean, you look at Courier, you look at Kin in mobile, you look at all these things that they would let them get so far and then they'd be like, ah, you guys don't get it. Windows is the center of everything.
Or they were developing cool new stuff that would then get killed because it's not a part of the Windows machine. I mean, you look at Courier, you look at Kin in mobile, you look at all these things that they would let them get so far and then they'd be like, ah, you guys don't get it. Windows is the center of everything.