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Bill Gurley

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

For those that don't know this world, private investing, both on the PE side and the VC side, is this weird world where the GPs, the people responsible for the investments, report the price to the LPs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

They get to pick it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

Now there's auditors in the background messing around and you'll hear frustrated LPs because some firms will be conservative and price them low and some high.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So they get mixed signals from different people.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

Yeah.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But the thing people may not realize is the managers of the VC group at the large endowments have no incentive to try and right size this number.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

In fact, many of them are bonused on paper marks.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So if anything, they have the reverse incentives to get them right.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

It's a great question.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I think there's two things that fight against that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

One, every founder I know has multiplied their percentage ownership times whatever the highest price their company was ever valued at and thought about that number as their net worth.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I say that without judgment.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I think it's natural that you would do that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But then taking that number down by 70% or whatever is tough to do.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And then the other issue is, quite frankly, the lick preference.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And so this is another technicality.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So I'll explain it for the listeners.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

The amount of money you raise in aggregate, just the raw number becomes your LIC preference.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And in M&A outcomes, the investor can choose to take the LIC preference and not convert to common so they can get their money back.