Bill Gurley

I fell in love with these long-form nonfiction articles.

There's a website called Longreads that has best of, and it's a lot of Atlantic stuff, that kind of thing.

The thing that popped in my head was there was a New York Magazine article, Suge Knight and

And Snoop and I think Biggie were on the cover of New York Times Magazine when I was – it was in 93 or 94, and it was 20 pages.

That may have been the first one that got me into this.

But that led me to a book called The New Journalism, and there's another one called The New New Journalism about these writers that kind of left the being beat writers on newspapers and started –

doing this longer form journalism and how it brought stories to life.

I think Truman Capote's highlighted in that.

Tom Wolfe put together the first one.

And then the second one has Krakauer and Lewis and like all the modern.

I'm a huge Barry fan.

Well, I mean, one thing I would encourage you to do, there was this book I read when I was really in, I think back in business school called Shark Proof by Harvey McKay.

He wrote...

He's known for his sales book, but he wrote a book about careers, and he said to keep your dream job.

This was an older book, so he said keep it in a Manila folder in a file, but you could create it in a Google Doc or something where you're just keeping notes.

Like, well, if I do it one day, you know, and everything you learn, people you might talk to, I think you just pile more and more stuff in there, and it'll start to feel more real.

Like, you can begin the process before you make the leap, right?

Right.

And then the second thing, I'm going to say three things.

The second thing I would say is if you have some curiosity that's occupying your downtime, that's a really interesting tell.