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Bill Gurley

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I saw an interesting interview between Friedberg and Sundar where he asked him if he had ever read The Intervasive Dilemma, and he admitted not.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

So...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

When your company's crushing it, those kind of things, those were for somebody else.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But yeah, maybe now I should read it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I think it's tough for the reason I mentioned before.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

You might be getting a million dollar deal and it has negative gross margin for you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

But on the flip side, you're looking at any AI model that's two generations old sells for one one hundredth the price per token as today's.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And I think you could probably have confidence that you're going to price optimize later.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

One of the interesting things that partners at Benchmark have been looking at and assessing is when companies move to optimization mode and how they make decisions differently once they do that than when they're in experimentation and sandbox mode.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And with the amount of capital you have, you can run sandbox mode longer before you go to optimization mode.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And we saw this on the internet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I like to highlight that the first two years, everyone built on Sun and Oracle.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

Everyone.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

All the startups did.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And five, six years in, no one did.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

That's why it's so important to pay attention to that shift.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

I think there's a super interesting development in the China situation that will be very, very fascinating to watch.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

And that is when DeepSeek hit and took off.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

We were all focused on how the U.S.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Bill Gurley - The Gift and The Curse of Staying Private - [Invest Like the Best, EP.427]

reacted, the U.S.