Bill Gurley

You know, last time I talked to him, he just got back from Europe.

He had taken all his chefs on a tour of Europe together.

um, jotting notes, taking learning, like just constant learning.

That's so cool.

Which I think is, is, is it's also, that's the second principle in my book is continuous learning, but it ties in with the first one.

The best test as to whether you found your passion is, does the learning feel like free?

Like, would you do it instead of watching a TV show?

Like, is it, is it something you enjoy so much that continuous learning is just you, um,

enjoying life, you know?

And if you find that, you found it.

You found your passion.

And by the way, both of those people did something that is...

super extraordinary, which is they took an innovative company, grew it to hundreds of thousands of employees, and kept it innovative.

It's two of the only examples I know of.

Bureaucracy that always lands in big companies.

And it must be some heuristic, like the one you described, that allows them.

In fact, I was just listening to Elon on,

on cheeky pine.

I think this came up, this came up like, like every leader wants to know how he does it.

That's why I think Collison was asking him, like, how do you lead?