Bill Gurley

Oh, I studied up until graduating from college, and now the learning's done, and I just go in and do the craft.

And I just don't think that's how the world works, especially in this modern world where if you want to self-learn and you want to continuously learn, there's so much at your fingertips between podcast and AI and all these things.

You're going to get outrun because someone's going to get out on the edge in front of you.

Why don't you say the word passion has become trite and it's been said so many times, some people attack it.

And I kind of understand that, like, you know, it's just been overused.

I use the phrase chase your curiosity.

Seinfeld gave this great talk at Duke where he used the phrase fascination.

That's a good word, too.

Fascination is like it indicates something that you just can't stop learning about.

Right.

You can't stop trying to figure out if you're fascinated with it.

And the great thing is, and you're in this place, I was in that place, the learning feels free if you love it.

Yep.

Like you're not sitting there going, oh, my God, I got to go read this thing.

Like you want to read this thing.

And so if somehow you could measure the negative impact of having to do the work for people that really love what they do and really are curious about it or fascinated by it,

it doesn't feel like there's work effort put in to the continuous learning.

Well, one thing, if you flip through the book, one thing you'll notice, and this is one of the reasons why from the video to the book release was six years, because

I had a real bias in finding the stories and that I mostly wanted to find people in non-traditional fields for this reason.

Like I didn't want to – there's no McKinsey consultants.