Bill Kristol

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Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad, as you say, with the white working class, don't you want to get new Americans in who aren't going to be... I'm serious.

You can make a case that this is going on too long and this is too crazy, probably, and I hope this thing isn't being, like, you know, videotaped or ever shown anywhere.

Whatever tiny, pathetic future I have is going to be totally... You can make a case that America has been great because every...

I think John Adams said this at the beginning, right?

Basically, if you're in a free society, a capitalist society, after two, three, four generations of hard work, everyone becomes kind of decadent, lazy, spoiled, whatever.

And then you, luckily, you have these waves of people coming in from Italy and Ireland and Russia and now Mexico who really want to work hard and really want to succeed and really want their kids to live better lives than them and aren't sort of clipping coupons or hoping that they can hang on.

And meanwhile, you know, grew up with spoiled kids and so forth.

I didn't know you had relatives from Central Illinois.

That's nice.

Did I sit there showing up wearing your shirt?

Pero, Bill, ¿por qué no comienzas con lo que hablabas en la noticia esta mañana?

Bueno, obviamente, yo aplaudo la violencia y los esfuerzos para usar la violencia de esta manera, o de alguna manera, realmente.

Debemos ser claros sobre eso.

100%.

Una cosa que, sí, Bill ya lo ha dicho, creo, y debería.

Habiendo dicho eso, una cosa que es tal vez, creo, que es impactante sobre este movimiento pro-democracia de la que somos parte, creo, es cómo comprometido hemos sido con la no violencia.

y bastante sorprendentemente así.

Pueden haber estado fudgiendo a los margines, pero obviamente los miembros del Congreso van a decir que están en contra de la violencia, y lo son, pero las marchas de No Kings, que eran la parte más masiva de la protesta del movimiento, podríamos decir, los organizadores se salieron de su camino para decir de nuevo y de nuevo, está en el sitio web, que estos van a ser no violentes, que deberíamos ser pacíficos y justos, y la gente lo era, incidentemente, 8 millones de personas, ¿verdad?

Sí.