Bill Kristol

you know, the idea that, that there is something worth fighting for, that we're fighting for a goal that is greater than just a mercantilistic, like American financial interests. And so even in failure, right? Like there's a greater purpose. And I think this ends up getting lost both in Vietnam and Iraq at various points, but like,

you know, the idea that, that there is something worth fighting for, that we're fighting for a goal that is greater than just a mercantilistic, like American financial interests. And so even in failure, right? Like there's a greater purpose. And I think this ends up getting lost both in Vietnam and Iraq at various points, but like,

you know, the idea that, that there is something worth fighting for, that we're fighting for a goal that is greater than just a mercantilistic, like American financial interests. And so even in failure, right? Like there's a greater purpose. And I think this ends up getting lost both in Vietnam and Iraq at various points, but like,

or at least as an attempt to create a greater purpose for the people that are serving. Right. And I, and I do feel that on the, on the heels of, you know, the failed wars. And then now having somebody that's like the Memorial day video today out from Trump and Hegseth is just like America. Like, We don't care about climate change or democracy anymore. We just care about war fighting.

or at least as an attempt to create a greater purpose for the people that are serving. Right. And I, and I do feel that on the, on the heels of, you know, the failed wars. And then now having somebody that's like the Memorial day video today out from Trump and Hegseth is just like America. Like, We don't care about climate change or democracy anymore. We just care about war fighting.

or at least as an attempt to create a greater purpose for the people that are serving. Right. And I, and I do feel that on the, on the heels of, you know, the failed wars. And then now having somebody that's like the Memorial day video today out from Trump and Hegseth is just like America. Like, We don't care about climate change or democracy anymore. We just care about war fighting.

That probably works for some people, but maybe isn't quite in the Memorial Day spirit.

That probably works for some people, but maybe isn't quite in the Memorial Day spirit.

That probably works for some people, but maybe isn't quite in the Memorial Day spirit.

Yeah, I got to hash this out. I texted Ben Rhodes and I was like, it's overdue for you on the Bulwark podcast. We can hash this out with him. But in his recent book, I was like, you know, again, some disagreements with the prudence of what had happened in the recent wars.

Yeah, I got to hash this out. I texted Ben Rhodes and I was like, it's overdue for you on the Bulwark podcast. We can hash this out with him. But in his recent book, I was like, you know, again, some disagreements with the prudence of what had happened in the recent wars.

Yeah, I got to hash this out. I texted Ben Rhodes and I was like, it's overdue for you on the Bulwark podcast. We can hash this out with him. But in his recent book, I was like, you know, again, some disagreements with the prudence of what had happened in the recent wars.

But the thematics of Ben's book, which is basically that if you don't like the American world order, be careful about what's coming behind it. It's not pretty. I was like, there's some Bill Kristolian elements in that. So anyway, I guess we'll watch. I'll watch your discussion. I'll watch Ben's face when you put it that way to him. We'll hash that out together in the next couple of weeks.

But the thematics of Ben's book, which is basically that if you don't like the American world order, be careful about what's coming behind it. It's not pretty. I was like, there's some Bill Kristolian elements in that. So anyway, I guess we'll watch. I'll watch your discussion. I'll watch Ben's face when you put it that way to him. We'll hash that out together in the next couple of weeks.

But the thematics of Ben's book, which is basically that if you don't like the American world order, be careful about what's coming behind it. It's not pretty. I was like, there's some Bill Kristolian elements in that. So anyway, I guess we'll watch. I'll watch your discussion. I'll watch Ben's face when you put it that way to him. We'll hash that out together in the next couple of weeks.

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You are definitely the fucking self-important one. June is Pride Month, and we're going to be live in D.C. on June 6th for World Pride for a very special live show fundraiser featuring the three of us, plus some gay special guests.

You are definitely the fucking self-important one. June is Pride Month, and we're going to be live in D.C. on June 6th for World Pride for a very special live show fundraiser featuring the three of us, plus some gay special guests.

Trump yesterday, I couldn't watch it. I can't. He was at the West Point graduation. I saw some pictures. He was in a MAGA hat. I saw a clip, as I mentioned earlier, where he was talking about trophy wives. I saw that he went golfing right afterwards. I don't know if there's much more to say about that, but I want to just give you an opportunity to... Share any thoughts you have.

Trump yesterday, I couldn't watch it. I can't. He was at the West Point graduation. I saw some pictures. He was in a MAGA hat. I saw a clip, as I mentioned earlier, where he was talking about trophy wives. I saw that he went golfing right afterwards. I don't know if there's much more to say about that, but I want to just give you an opportunity to... Share any thoughts you have.