Bill Kristol

Yeah, it's madness at its personal grift. I mean, that is to say there is a case sometimes maybe for, let's just call it a realpolitik, you know. Sure. They have a lot of oil. We can't litigate the human rights issues too much with those countries. China is too powerful. We can't stand up as much as we would like to for the Uyghurs. You and I are more on the other side of that.

Yeah, it's madness at its personal grift. I mean, that is to say there is a case sometimes maybe for, let's just call it a realpolitik, you know. Sure. They have a lot of oil. We can't litigate the human rights issues too much with those countries. China is too powerful. We can't stand up as much as we would like to for the Uyghurs. You and I are more on the other side of that.

But, you know, that's a Kissingerian point of view. But that still presumes that people are trying to act in what they think

But, you know, that's a Kissingerian point of view. But that still presumes that people are trying to act in what they think

But, you know, that's a Kissingerian point of view. But that still presumes that people are trying to act in what they think

the best interests of the country they just differ on the balancing of some you know material interests economic interests as opposed to values or human rights and so forth but trump's not even balancing anything i mean this is the farce of it right i mean some of his defenders want to make it look like there's some kind of theory here he's just out for himself and his family and his buddies and they're all out for themselves so i think that a politically i think that means you don't even have to reach the more sophisticated kind of discussions you just have to say that if you're the opposition

the best interests of the country they just differ on the balancing of some you know material interests economic interests as opposed to values or human rights and so forth but trump's not even balancing anything i mean this is the farce of it right i mean some of his defenders want to make it look like there's some kind of theory here he's just out for himself and his family and his buddies and they're all out for themselves so i think that a politically i think that means you don't even have to reach the more sophisticated kind of discussions you just have to say that if you're the opposition

the best interests of the country they just differ on the balancing of some you know material interests economic interests as opposed to values or human rights and so forth but trump's not even balancing anything i mean this is the farce of it right i mean some of his defenders want to make it look like there's some kind of theory here he's just out for himself and his family and his buddies and they're all out for themselves so i think that a politically i think that means you don't even have to reach the more sophisticated kind of discussions you just have to say that if you're the opposition

And it does make me think, I don't know, just the attack on him and his buddies, the plutocrats, the oligarchs, the kleptocrats. I don't know. Shouldn't that be effective politically? I mean, it's really unbelievable to see what's going on.

And it does make me think, I don't know, just the attack on him and his buddies, the plutocrats, the oligarchs, the kleptocrats. I don't know. Shouldn't that be effective politically? I mean, it's really unbelievable to see what's going on.

And it does make me think, I don't know, just the attack on him and his buddies, the plutocrats, the oligarchs, the kleptocrats. I don't know. Shouldn't that be effective politically? I mean, it's really unbelievable to see what's going on.

It's being done out in the open and to a degree that really exceeds, I think, the Gilded Age and all the other, you know, sort of things we sort of learn about a little bit of, you know, the sort of unattractive parts of American history or world history for that matter.

It's being done out in the open and to a degree that really exceeds, I think, the Gilded Age and all the other, you know, sort of things we sort of learn about a little bit of, you know, the sort of unattractive parts of American history or world history for that matter.

It's being done out in the open and to a degree that really exceeds, I think, the Gilded Age and all the other, you know, sort of things we sort of learn about a little bit of, you know, the sort of unattractive parts of American history or world history for that matter.

Yeah. And you combine it with the, oh, you're just going to have to eat the tariffs. It's like, what are these guys eating? What sacrifice are they making? There's nothing. Absolute opposite. They're trying to squeeze every penny they can out of Middle Eastern despots in order to live as opulent lives as they can, in order to sell as many of the chips. They're not even shy about it.

Yeah. And you combine it with the, oh, you're just going to have to eat the tariffs. It's like, what are these guys eating? What sacrifice are they making? There's nothing. Absolute opposite. They're trying to squeeze every penny they can out of Middle Eastern despots in order to live as opulent lives as they can, in order to sell as many of the chips. They're not even shy about it.

Yeah. And you combine it with the, oh, you're just going to have to eat the tariffs. It's like, what are these guys eating? What sacrifice are they making? There's nothing. Absolute opposite. They're trying to squeeze every penny they can out of Middle Eastern despots in order to live as opulent lives as they can, in order to sell as many of the chips. They're not even shy about it.

They're not even acting as if there's some greater good or greater sacrifice.

They're not even acting as if there's some greater good or greater sacrifice.

They're not even acting as if there's some greater good or greater sacrifice.