Bill Kristol

And I mean, it also fills what you and I have both been sort of calling for for a year, which is, you know, you can be a moderate on a lot of issues.

I think Ossoff is he's not on the left wing of the Senate Democrats running in Georgia, for God's sake, but also be aggressive and a fighter and take on Trump, but then also show that Trump voters got betrayed by Trump.

So it kind of gets some of the some of the Trump voters over the economic populace.

And I do think it's very important.

I mean, it's not quite where I am probably as a pure matter of policy, but on the other hand, it's okay.

And some of it's right, incidentally.

The moderates who still want to sound like Bill Clinton on economics are just wrong.

I mean, I just think they're out of it now at this point.

And you've got to sound more like Franklin Roosevelt.

FDR saved the American middle class and saved an America which produced a massive middle class in the 50s and 60s.

He attacked the economic royalists.

The Epstein class thing is very important, I think.

And it also shows that, I mean, Epstein is actually a big issue.

Political class seems to keep wanting it to go away, but then it seems like the public's quite interested, you know?

Yeah.

I think it's impressive.

It's impressive.

But I think having the concrete examples is important.

The rural hospitals, you know, I mean, and be tying it to Trump.

That is, there's stuff in, I guess, the bill that Trump heralded and that Republicans voted for and passed in Congress that is going to damage, that is damaging rural hospitals.