Bill Kristol

The moderates who still want to sound like Bill Clinton on economics are just wrong.

I mean, I just think they're out of it now at this point.

And you've got to sound more like Franklin Roosevelt.

FDR saved the American middle class and saved an America which produced a massive middle class in the 50s and 60s.

He attacked the economic royalists.

The Epstein class thing is very important, I think.

And it also shows that, I mean, Epstein is actually a big issue.

Political class seems to keep wanting it to go away, but then it seems like the public's quite interested, you know?

Yeah.

I think it's impressive.

It's impressive.

But I think having the concrete examples is important.

The rural hospitals, you know, I mean, and be tying it to Trump.

That is, there's stuff in, I guess, the bill that Trump heralded and that Republicans voted for and passed in Congress that is going to damage, that is damaging rural hospitals.

So you really tie it, therefore, not just around Trump, but around the Republican Congress.

And Ossoff's an incumbent, so it's a little different.

He's not running against an incumbent.

since his challenger is going to be endorsed by Trump and will have phrased this bill, he can say, you want a Republican Congress?

You're damaging rural hospitals.

I mean, the causality, I think, is important.