Bill Landis

We talk about this.

We've talked about this multiple times with...

sort of like the first quarterback recruit for a head coach, especially an offensive minded one, like how important, like what Tim Tebow was for urban Meyer at Florida.

And then what JT Barrett was for urban Meyer at Ohio state.

Like it's a, it's sort of a tone setter.

It establishes like who you are, who you want to be, how you see your team.

how you see yourself as a coach, like of all the places when you're at a great place, like of all the people, like I it's, it's picking more than it is recruiting.

Right.

It's like, who do I choose of all the people out there who want to come play for Ohio state?

Who do I choose as sort of my first guy that reflects and what I, what I want us to be and sets the standard.

for what I want us to be.

And when James Laurinaitis got here from Notre Dame, he had been recruiting Peyton Pierce at Notre Dame, and he said that, again, one of the first things he did when he took a job at Ohio State was call Peyton Pierce.

This is what Peyton Pierce is for James Laurinaitis as a college linebackers coach, yes?

So you can't, we don't want to go too far with this stuff, right?

That football is hard.

And Peyton Pierce really like on one hand, I don't know, like on one hand, Peyton Pierce was their third linebacker last year playing with two first round draft picks and played like a real amount of snaps.

On the other hand, he like has barely played 300 college snaps like in two years.

So I don't think we want to make too many assumptions about what he's already done.

but he did pop mark fletcher in the cotton bowl and that got ball out on the fumble that they recovered i want to double back on one conversation real quick before we end remind me um but what if like what so what james is three-time all-american he started for the first time in 2006 and like won the butkus or whatever i mean it's like whatever this guy's a freak um

But as you're thinking about, okay, like losing Sonny Styles, holy moly, but how like close, what percent of James Laurinaitis do you think Peyton Pierce could be?