Bill Landis

I do think that's probably Matt Patricia's greatest strength, which is funny.

Given his reputation before he got to Ohio State, I don't know that you would assume that.

But if you sort of take a step back from that and think, well, he coached under Bill Belichick.

They are the most detailed franchise in the NFL.

Of course you have to be

an excellent teacher i think to thrive in a place like that and some of that is informed by matt patricia talking a lot about that when he was first introduced to us last year i think like the idea of coming to this level and coaching guys at this stage in their football development was really enticing to him because you can really kind of get hands-on and and and into the nitty-gritty of just the finite detail or yeah the minute details of of uh

playing football and and i think he's really good with that and i think he's good with that like across the board like james smith that we talked to um on thursday as well the transfer defensive lineman from alabama was was talking about matt patrician he said it's kind of crazy how much matt patrician knows about every position on the defense and how he can coach every position on the defense and i don't know you know i think a lot of good football coaches can probably figure it out no matter which position group you throw them into

But that ability to roam around and speak the language of the different spots on the defense and get guys to understand it at a pretty high level, I do think is an incredibly important skill for a coach.

And Patricia seems to have that.

And a lot of the guys we've talked to over the last year, when they're sort of gushing about their relationship with Matt Patricia, I think it stems from that.

There's just a lot of...

hands-on sort of like intimate coaching from the guy who's running the entire defense that I'm just not sure happens a lot at a lot of places because that's such a big job and there's so much on your plate.

But Matt Patricia really does seem to relish that part of the job.

And I think because of that, you saw a defense that was incredibly detailed last year and I would imagine will be so again this year, even if maybe some of the talent is not quite as high-end as it was in 2025.

Yeah, that was another question that I asked because I'm just a little – I don't think we're going to see a defense on the field this fall that looks drastically different from what we saw last year, but there could be things here and there that you might have to tweak just based on when you have personnel.

So I just asked him sort of in his past how fluid has he been with that like year to year.

I think I said like you let the personnel speak to you before you decide on anything, and he said like, yeah, you kind of have to.

And he used it – the comparison of the NFL –

where he was at the Patriots, most years they were picking late.

Sometimes there weren't, maybe weren't quite as good.