Bill Landis

I think so, and there was like an interplay between the two, I think, a lot of the time where Ohio State would move Arvell down to get into that five-man front, and it's a 5-1 with the one linebacker, but there's kind of Caleb hovering down a little closer to the line of scrimmage to kind of pick up some of the space that you've not given up by moving your Will linebacker down to the line of scrimmage.

So I think probably in the safety room,

There are guys who can do some of that stuff and you don't have to sub.

We'll see.

It sounds like they have probably four safeties that they think can play with Jalen McClain back, the two transfers, Terry Moore and Earl Little, and then Leroy Roker.

So there could be some substitution and packaging there.

I think what's more interesting is what happens at that outside linebacker slash edge spot because I just –

I don't know.

Christian Allegro played some up on the line at Wisconsin, but not a ton.

And Quay Russo played some off the ball at Alabama, but not a ton.

And I don't know that either guy...

like wants to be two positions at once.

So that's what I'm interested in in terms of the packaging.

Like does the five down front for Ohio State this year actually just have five defensive linemen?

Where like last year it was four defensive linemen and Arvel Reese.

And I think with some of the depth they potentially have, maybe it will be just like actually five defensive linemen out there.

The only exception that I can remember was that Purdue game when they started to use Riley Pettijohn on third down.

They were kind of packaging things in that game, but otherwise, yeah, they weren't taking Arvell and Sonny off the field, really.

Yeah, John Walker.

And even like the linebackers who I think have some versatility who are back are sophomores who don't play a lot, right?