Bill Landis

But you have...

You have a lot of fourth and fifth year guys who are going to play.

And that's not to say like you shouldn't be excited about guys like Kari Wilder.

You should.

But like for a guy like Kari Wilder, for instance, to exist in a world where there's just a lot of old dudes kind of raising the floor of that room.

I would imagine that's what a lot of college coaches view as sort of the sweet spot when you're trying to contend for national championships anymore.

And I think Ohio State is, at least in terms of age and experience, the other piece of it is talent, but I think in terms of age and experience, they're right where they need to be on both lines.

You walk Olympics.

Yeah, I didn't know.

There was just like an energy when we walked into the Woody, and I didn't know why, but something felt a little more jubilant, I guess.

And then the players are like, oh, yeah, we got our gold pants today.

I was like, okay, we're putting two and two together now.

I wonder, you can only do this, obviously, with so many teams, because there are far more players in Ohio State history that have gold pants than championship rings.

But if you're a guy who has both, I wonder what you wear more.

wow like what do you actually wear more because that's always like i always if i had a national championship ring i'd be wearing that clunky thing every day but they're a little like wear them they don't wear they're not functional like they can get in the way of things i'm terrified i don't have my wedding ring on right now but i don't wear a metal wedding ring because i'm scared of that thing where you're like your ring gets caught on the table and then your finger gets torn off i don't want that to happen to me um but like you can just wear the gold pants on a on a chain around your neck yeah and that's like that's far more functional

Yeah, good vibes.

He's a little understated, right?

I think you and I were talking, and you sort of want to juxtapose his introduction to Matt Patricia's last year in the spring.

Different circumstances, right?

And Matt Patricia sort of even admitted to this when he was talking to us.