Bill Landis

There's more detail to get into there for sure.

Maybe we'll have that opportunity.

The way he kind of presented it was he was sort of

caught off guard by the Mike Tomlin stepping away thing in Pittsburgh, which sort of left him as a free agent.

And I think people are aware, like, at the time of him coming to Ohio State, even there were reports anyway of NFL teams being interested in Arthur, at least interviewing Arthur Smith, to be their offensive coordinator.

And he kind of said, like, he...

That happened.

He met with Ryan Day.

He took a beat.

He talked to some people.

He pondered what he wanted to do, and he thought that Ohio State was a pretty interesting challenge, is the way that he described it, to come to a place that he's not super familiar with in college football, coach athletes at a different point in their career, and see what that can do for his growth as a coach.

So I don't know.

He's not...

think about arthur smith's career and like part of it's his own doing because he just wasn't a super successful head coach when he was with the falcons like he hasn't won in a while he hasn't won since he's been in tennessee and they were good when he was there but he's working on shoot five years at least of just kind of being on bad to sort of average nfl teams i would imagine

hey, do you want to come coach with the best of the best at our level and make probably the same money you'd make in the NFL?

Otherwise, I can definitely see why that would be enticing.

So it is – there's no connection between he and Ryan Day.

Like he said, like –

He said they've met a couple times when Arthur Smith was here for pro days in the past, but they weren't friends.

They weren't chatting all the time.