Bill Pulte

So if people aren't performing, we get rid of them.

We don't keep them around for years and years and years and decades just because they're politically connected.

And so I think that this has enabled the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac story to really, with President Trump's help,

unlock a lot of value for the American people.

And it'll be very interesting to see what the president decides to do in this regard.

Well, we'll see.

I mean, you know, these companies are in conservatorship, as you know, which basically means that the president is in charge of these companies.

And there was a Supreme Court ruling which made that very clear.

I would say that any and all options are on the table.

One of the things that I've been focused on, Romain, has been since getting in this seat is on creating value.

Now,

What the president ultimately decides to do with that value is entirely up to him.

But we had a thing called common securitization solutions.

Nobody understood what this thing was generally out there.

And so we decided to rebrand it as US FinTech and really focus on what it is, which is financial technology.

I believe this business is worth billions and billions of dollars.

It was previously neglected in my view.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have put almost a billion dollars into this platform.

And so we're unlocking value there.

And then with Fannie and Freddie, we'll see.