Bill Roggio
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first heard Nov 2024
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Yeah, so right now, the main focus of the operation is in Rafah and communists in southern Gaza. The Israeli military... For them to occupy, look, 2 million people in Gaza. It's a large area. The Israeli military isn't built for this. They're built to fight. quick, fast-strike, high-technology-type wars, something like an occupation.
The Israeli doesn't have that kind of manpower in their military. I think we've heard the Israelis say time and time again since this war began that its objective is to defeat Hamas. And yet here we are well over a year and a half since the October 17, 2023 attack. And Hamas is still in the fight. I think it's going to be difficult. The Israelis have to be smart about this.
The only thing I could think here is that I do see some evidence that the people in Gaza are starting to grow tired of Hamas. We've seen a couple of instances of protests. Now, Hamas has responded to that by going out and beating and executing the ringleaders of these protests.
which shows that they still have staying power and that they still can wield the stick, particularly amongst their own people. for the Israelis to completely, you know, to occupy 75% of Gaza. Well, then what about that other 25%? Is this where Hamas slips into in order to slip away from the Israeli Defense Force and bide their time?
We've seen this in, you know, the insurgencies that we fought, particularly in Afghanistan and in Iraq over time. So, call me skeptical that it can be successful, that the Israelis can succeed here, but Maybe but maybe they can. They certainly have to try because raids and airstrikes that they've been doing over the last year and a half, of course, they have inserted ground forces.
That just hasn't worked. I do think they need to try here. But I do have a lot of questions as to whether the Israeli military and Israeli society, because their military is primarily made up of the service. So. of all of these call up reservists that are going to have to be focusing on occupying Gaza are unable to go to their jobs and contribute to the Israeli economy.
So there's a lot of difficulties. It's fraught with problems, both militarily and within the, you know, politically and within the civilian population for the Israelis to maintain the type of occupation that I think they would need to maintain in order to truly defeat Hamas and Gaza.
Yeah, absolutely. And you have to remember, so look, support for Moss has certainly dipped, but by all accounts, it's somewhere in the most 50% of the population. Now, could that be because the people are afraid, you know, the pollsters? Maybe it's 30%. But-
you know the numbers with there's multiple studies on this and who knows what the real percentage is you know there's lies damn lies and statistics but they say anywhere from two to five percent of the population is what a successful insurgency needs to to maintain itself so let's say that number is 25 or 20 or 30 who knows what the truly the sport is the reality is is that the support amongst the people in gaza for hamas is still high the people have been indoctrinated
for decades by Hamas. This was the real danger. You know, it's interesting, right? Like, I'm going to make an Afghanistan comparison here. The Israelis withdrew from Gaza in, what, 2005 or 2006. And the thought was they could isolate it. And... You know, just let them be and they won't have any reason. And here we are two decades later. And the problem is metastasizing.
And Hamas still remains in control of Gaza, even if it's tenuous. U.S. invaded Afghanistan to to eject the Taliban from power. And here we are two decades later. The Taliban is back in power. Maybe we need to learn something about how we engage with terrorist organizations that are more than terrorist organizations and that have outside support.
Maybe that's where the Israelis in the West, the problem is as much of the West isn't supportive from us now. Look at Europe and their attitudes towards Israel. The Israelis have a real long-term problem when it comes to Hamas. Hamas just needs to figure out how to bide their time, how to wait out the Israeli offensive and just move back in when the Israelis tire.
No, I agree. I mean, that new generation, the young male, the military age male or even younger than that. I mean, when you look at the destruction in Gaza, what do they have to lose? On one hand, I don't blame the Israelis. On the other hand, the Israelis have been far too kind for what the people of Gaza did. It's not just Hamas, right?
The Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the PLFP and the alphabet soup of terrorist organizations that emanate from Gaza, as well as the West Bank, celebrating that attack on Israel. On one hand, what would our response be if the cartels did? on the scale of what to the United States, to American citizens with the what Hamas and company did to the Israelis, I can only imagine.
I mean, I think me and my friends would certainly be rounding up and going to Texas to exact some revenge for what, you know, for 20,000 plus American dead in an attack, a horrific attack like that.
but as you know those consequences to that does it create another generation is it is the destruction that israel has leveled upon the people of gaza has it just given them no no other opportunity but to fight you know i i'm torn on this issue but that ultimately i don't you know i kind of come down on the side here that These Israelis have tried to play nice for decades. They left Gaza.
They ended the occupation in the mid-2000s to leave Gaza and the Palestinians to govern on their own. And they were repaid by multiple attacks, being rockets, missiles, balloons, incendiary balloons, terrorists coming across the border to kill people and rammings and shootings. And ultimately, the pogrom that occurred on October 7th, 2023 happened. You know, what other option do the Israelis have?
I mean, how much longer could they turn the other cheek?
Yeah, that one seems to have gone by the wayside. The Trump administration, if they were serious about this, I think this was something that would have been better handled behind closed doors. Although part of me wonders if this is the Trump negotiating style of going in, you know, going...
you know, taking a swing for the Grand Slam and then possibly hoping to get, you know, a single or a double here. I, you know, far be it for me to understand the mind of Trump and his foreign policy team. I look at what happened in Syria and I'm perplexed that the president
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