Billy Corgan

Pop is fine.

Pop is fine.

I mean, I grew up with Michael Jackson and Prince and all that stuff.

I mean, I grew up with Michael Jackson and Prince and all that stuff.

There's nothing wrong with pop.

There's nothing wrong with pop.

I love pop too.

I love pop, too.

But when pop becomes the dominant sort of social force, like if you're not this and you don't check these boxes, somehow you're lesser than...

But when pop becomes the dominant sort of social force, like if you're not this and you don't check these boxes, somehow you're lesser than.

Yeah.

Or if you're not selling out a stadium or something.

Or if you're not selling out a stadium or something.

I think that's a really weird message to send to a kid.

I think that's a really weird message to send to a kid.

It puts a really weird pressure on them as a musician.

It puts a really weird pressure on them as a musician.

And so what ends up happening is you get this cleaving of all musicians feel they have to be so integral and so authentic and so different.

And so what ends up happening is you get this cleaving of all musicians feel they have to be so integral and so authentic and so different.

You know, they basically there's like every part of them has to somehow represent something different.