Billy Corgan

So sometimes when I've talked about the bullying that went on in the 90s from the journalistic class towards the artists that they didn't agree with, I'm obviously one of them.

So sometimes when I've talked about the bullying that went on in the 90s from the journalistic class towards the artists that they didn't agree with, I'm obviously one of them.

Sometimes I'll tell people to go back and read those articles and they cannot believe the language in it.

Sometimes I'll tell people to go back and read those articles and they cannot believe the language in it.

Well, it's beyond harsh.

Well, it's beyond harsh.

It's a need to assassinate one to extol the other.

It's a need to assassinate one to extol the other.

So if the equanimity of maybe more people participating in it is more of an ebb and flow, if that sort of is less ultimately harsh, that's probably a good thing.

So if the equanimity of maybe more people participating in it is more of an ebb and flow, if that sort of is less ultimately harsh, that's probably a good thing.

But it's harder sometimes to delineate the ley lines of who's winning and who's losing because there's really no referees anymore.

But it's harder sometimes to delineate the ley lines of who's winning and who's losing because there's really no referees anymore.

Not that I even agreed with the referees, but at least there was this sort of clear... If you were on the losing side, you at least knew you were losing.

Not that I even agreed with the referees, but at least there was this sort of clear... If you were on the losing side, you at least knew you were losing.

Sure.

Sure.

If something's alien to you, it's scary and it feels like...

If something's alien to you, it's scary and it feels like...

Right now.

Right now.